[DrCaleb]

andyt andyt:

You're going out on quite a limb there, Bud. The cows I eat weren't killed by guns, was my point.

In the 60's I had a mining claim that allowed me to own and carry guns. I had a Lee Enfield 303. Never did shoot anything (living) with it tho. I have no problem with responsible long gun owners, who use and store their guns properly. I have a problem with all the wankers that see guns as a way of boosting their fragile ego, don't treat their guns with the caution and respect they deserve. Drunken nutbar hunters that shoot anything in sight, including each other. Revenge fantasists such as Tritium above, etc. That's not even to mention the criminal element.

So way too many morons with guns out there.

andyt andyt:

I don't know about the relative moron rates between the two groups.

I would like to see even more restrictive gun laws tho. Seems to me that hunters only need bolt or lever action rifles, not semi-automatics. Certainly not oversized clips, etc. And no civilian needs a handgun. (buy a shotgun if you want to defend your home.) That would help a bit.

But as long as we live next to the USArmerica, we're probably never really going to get a handle on the problem of illegal guns.

So, you understand what responsible gun ownership is like, and yet you choose to see these people as equal to the average gun owner? I wonder why you assume everyone is less responsible and less intelligent than yourself?

My handguns are only ever used for target shooting. But I guess target shooting is ok, so long as it's only darts in a pub. Sharp objects among drunk people never turns out badly.

[andyt]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

andyt andyt:

You're going out on quite a limb there, Bud. The cows I eat weren't killed by guns, was my point.

In the 60's I had a mining claim that allowed me to own and carry guns. I had a Lee Enfield 303. Never did shoot anything (living) with it tho. I have no problem with responsible long gun owners, who use and store their guns properly. I have a problem with all the wankers that see guns as a way of boosting their fragile ego, don't treat their guns with the caution and respect they deserve. Drunken nutbar hunters that shoot anything in sight, including each other. Revenge fantasists such as Tritium above, etc. That's not even to mention the criminal element.

So way too many morons with guns out there.

andyt andyt:

I don't know about the relative moron rates between the two groups.

I would like to see even more restrictive gun laws tho. Seems to me that hunters only need bolt or lever action rifles, not semi-automatics. Certainly not oversized clips, etc. And no civilian needs a handgun. (buy a shotgun if you want to defend your home.) That would help a bit.

But as long as we live next to the USArmerica, we're probably never really going to get a handle on the problem of illegal guns.

So, you understand what responsible gun ownership is like, and yet you choose to see these people as equal to the average gun owner? I wonder why you assume everyone is less responsible and less intelligent than yourself?

My handguns are only ever used for target shooting. But I guess target shooting is ok, so long as it's only darts in a pub. Sharp objects among drunk people never turns out badly.

What people?

YOu don't need those handguns. I'm sure you enjoy them. I'll give you the benefit of he doubt that you are responsible with them. But there is no crying need for you to have them. There is still the possibility they will be stolen, and by allowing them to be sold in Canada, a goodly number get on the street. Is your fun shooting targets with them really worth the risk they pose to society? How about taking up archery instead? More skill, more class, less lethal.

[tritium]

andyt andyt:

tritium tritium:

I agree, these retards should have their right to carry a firearm taken away...

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In another topic, you wrote

$1:

For the love of fuck, would someone stick a 9 mm to the back of this little cute's head and give human evolution a fighting chance.

Scary

...and you should be.

Give it rest, I don't go out and shoot helpless animals for sport.

"...give human evolution a fighting chance." Sarcasm is the rhetorical device of using a characterization of something or someone in order to express contempt.

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

YOu don't need those handguns. I'm sure you enjoy them. I'll give you the benefit of he doubt that you are responsible with them. But there is no crying need for you to have them. There is still the possibility they will be stolen, and by allowing them to be sold in Canada, a goodly number get on the street. Is your fun shooting targets with them really worth the risk they pose to society? How about taking up archery instead? More skill, more class, less lethal.

Are you seriously advocating the removal from society of things we don't need? The "I don't care how responsible you are we need to rid society of your property" attitude is rather enlightening comrade.

[andyt]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

andyt andyt:

YOu don't need those handguns. I'm sure you enjoy them. I'll give you the benefit of he doubt that you are responsible with them. But there is no crying need for you to have them. There is still the possibility they will be stolen, and by allowing them to be sold in Canada, a goodly number get on the street. Is your fun shooting targets with them really worth the risk they pose to society? How about taking up archery instead? More skill, more class, less lethal.

Are you seriously advocating the removal from society of things we don't need? The "I don't care how responsible you are we need to rid society of your property" attitude is rather enlightening comrade.

Easy to answer that (what's the fascist version of comrade?) If you own a nuclear device - should be confiscated - yes/no? All sorts of things the state won't let you own, likely supported by you. Why not handguns?

[tritium]

andyt andyt:

Easy to answer that (what's the fascist version of comrade?) If you own a nuclear device - should be confiscated - yes/no? All sorts of things the state won't let you own, likely supported by you. Why not handguns?

Violent Crime Increased When Countries Banned Guns

Gun-control advocates conveniently ignore the fact that the countries with the highest homicide rates have gun bans, says researcher John R. Lott Jr. The three worst public shootings in the past year all occurred in Europe, which has enacted everything American gun-control proponents favor.

Around the world, from Australia to England, countries that have recently strengthened gun-control laws with the promise of lowering crime have instead seen violent crime soar.

In the four years after the United Kingdom banned handguns in 1996, gun crime rose by an astounding 40 percent.

Since Australia's 1996 laws banning most guns and making it a crime to use a gun defensively, armed robberies rose by 51 percent, unarmed robberies by 37 percent, assaults by 24 percent and kidnappings by 43 percent.

While murders in Australia fell by 3 percent, manslaughter rose by 16 percent.
Finally, he notes, there exists not one single academic study showing that the federal Brady Act, assault-weapons bans, state waiting periods, background checks, one-gun-a-month rules or safe-storage laws reduce violent crime. Some research even finds that these rules increase crime.

Source: John R. Lott Jr. (American Enterprise Institute), "Gun laws don't reduce crime," USA Today, May 9, 2002.

For text

http://www.usatoday.com/news/comment/20 ... ncoppf.htm

For more on Crime:

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?A ... ategory=14

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

andyt andyt:

YOu don't need those handguns. I'm sure you enjoy them. I'll give you the benefit of he doubt that you are responsible with them. But there is no crying need for you to have them. There is still the possibility they will be stolen, and by allowing them to be sold in Canada, a goodly number get on the street. Is your fun shooting targets with them really worth the risk they pose to society? How about taking up archery instead? More skill, more class, less lethal.

Are you seriously advocating the removal from society of things we don't need? The "I don't care how responsible you are we need to rid society of your property" attitude is rather enlightening comrade.

Easy to answer that (what's the fascist version of comrade?) If you own a nuclear device - should be confiscated - yes/no? All sorts of things the state won't let you own, likely supported by you. Why not handguns?

I'm an advocate of punishing those who run afoul of the law, not of punishing the innocent due to the activities of a few idiots. 90% of people in big cities don't need automobiles and we all know that hundreds are killed every year by autos, maybe we should ban them. But we don't, do we? We punish the idiots who caused the deaths.

[Regina]

Ok back on topic!! This isn't going to be one of those gun debate threads. If that's what you want to talk about.....dig up one of the other previous mind numbing threads.
This thread is about 3 sadistic people who killed for no reason.

[tritium]

oops. Sorry Regina

All three of the people charged are from the Sundre area and will be in court on March 1. Charges are pending against another man from the Calgary area, police said.

Nixon is also charged with assaulting a witness to a wildlife infraction and uttering threats to a fish and wildlife officer, according to police.

$25,000 reward offered for tips. http://northernhorse.com/wildhorses

More than 22 wild horses have been killed in Alberta over the last four years — most of them in the Sundre area.

Despite a $25,000 reward from the Wild Horses of Alberta Society, this is the first time police have laid charges in connection with the death of a wild horse.

The Alberta government estimates there are about 300 feral horses in the Sundre area. Provincial biologists don't consider them true wildlife because they originated from domestic horses used in logging and mining operations in the early 1900s.

Horses were often turned loose or escaped, leading to several generations of offspring that still live in the area. In recent decades, some feral horses have been abandoned by their owners.

Anyone convicted of killing cattle or feral horses faces a maximum sentence of five years in prison under Canada's Criminal Code.