[Akhenaten]

diggerdick diggerdick:

Something as important as a distress signal should never be ignored.....

People keep saying this unless they are directly related to the case. The distress signal was not ignored. No one on either side of the case disputes this.

TheArticle TheArticle:

The pair had stamped SOS signals in the snow, which were seen by a passing backcountry helicopter company.

According to the RCMP and the resort's statements of defence, filed in Vancouver, the SOS signs were known to the resort, and to the Golden and District Search and Rescue Association on Feb. 17. The resort said it carried out its missing-persons protocols.

The RCMP was notified Feb. 21.

Blackburn is suing the RCMP, the resort and the search-and-rescue association over his wife's death. Their two sons are also seeking compensation through the courts.

In statements of defence filed recently, all defendants said they acted reasonably, were not negligent and were not responsible for the death.

The defendants also said Fortin and Blackburn contributed to their own misfortune by going out of bounds without being prepared, and by failing to tell anyone where they were going. The RCMP document says that, at one point, the couple was within walking distance of a cabin in which to take shelter.

The resort also argues it's protected by the terms and conditions of the "exclusion of liability" on the tickets sold to Blackburn and Fortin on Feb. 15, and on signs posted at the ticket office and other spots in the ski area.

According to the statement of defence, the RCMP's decision not to initiate a search on Feb. 21 was reasonable, given the information they had at the time.

Everyone siding with the victim here always tries to say the distress signal was ignored. It wasn't.

[digerdick]

Merry Christmas to you too..... unfortunately problems such as this make the headlines and are indeed very important to talk about..... perhaps the more serious things would be to ignore these problems....I do realize you are bias in your thinking and are trying to protect your brotherhood......... that is very understandable..........

[EyeBrock]

I realise there are times when cops screw-up and they should be held accountable for their mistakes.
The RCMP of late have been notable for not being able to cough to fucking up and have tried the "don't say anything and it will go away" approach.
Times have changed. The public expects transparency.

The easiest thing to do these days is admit the mistakes and move on. It stops those with an anti-police agenda in their tracks when you do this.

I am not trying to protect my 'brotherhood', I think you have watched too many movies. But I will speak out when people who have fucked up and caused a death through their own recklessness try and blame it on the police.

Some personal accountability is in order here and it's easy in your rocking chair to second-guess men and women who put their lives on the line everyday.

Just a bit of fairness and consideration in your criticism would make your input more credible, and you have had some valid points in the past. But the cop-hater thing is getting old.

[Gunnair]

diggerdick diggerdick:

As I said before there was a miscommunication...But the RCMP cannot have it both ways....you cannot put your members out there to serve the public then pick and choose who you're going to help...... because in your eyes they did something to deserve to be in the position they are in..... Something as important as a distress signal should never be ignored..... and making excuses and blaming the people who were in trouble is a very familiar pattern with the RCMP...............

The RCMP did not choose to leave the couple becuase the deserved their fate, as you seem to suggest. Both they and the rescue teams in Golden did not see the SOS as credible since no one had been declared missing. Pranks like this are common enough and expensive to respond to, but respond they do if it is credible.

[acidcomplex]

i agree though, they will probably lose but they should win. There out of bounds yes, but there is a reason its called a search-and-rescue team and not a, rescue you if your hurt but inside the boundry team.

What I really hear is people bitching about having to do there job and "RESCUE" someone.

[acidcomplex]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I am not trying to protect my 'brotherhood',

Oh ok good, thx for clearing that up

[Akhenaten]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

i agree though, they will probably lose but they should win. There out of bounds yes, but there is a reason its called a search-and-rescue team and not a, rescue you if your hurt but inside the boundry team.

What I really hear is people bitching about having to do there job and "RESCUE" someone.

What are you talking about? No you don't. You don't hear anyone bitching about having to rescue someone you're just pulling that outta thin air. They did mount a rescue and in fact it was successful.

Canadian SAR is one of the best and most successful in the world and it's almost entirely made of volunteers. If they are sued because the court says someone, anyone can run out into the bush without telling anyone and not stick around the SOS they create then I can imagine a lot of them dropping it.

[acidcomplex]

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

What are you talking about? No you don't. You don't hear anyone bitching about having to rescue someone you're just pulling that outta thin air. They did mount a rescue and in fact it was successful.

lol well actually i do hear that, the RCMP and Rescue team are saying there in the "quandry" because of these skiers, when the fact is that there in this because in the eyes of many they didnt act properly, simple as that.

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

Canadian SAR is one of the best and most successful in the world and it's almost entirely made of volunteers.

And for that I say "good on em"

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

If they are sued because the court says someone, anyone can run out into the bush without telling anyone and not stick around the SOS they create then I can imagine a lot of them dropping it.

hey and you know what, thats fair of them to drop it. You dont hear a cop saying, oh well im not going to save that child because of reason A. Answer this one question

IF you were in the same situation, exactly, no "I wouldn't do that" or "Im not that stupid" , in the exact same situation would you be ok with the fact that you didn't get rescued after the SOS, and then your wife died?. You dont have to agree with them suing but you cant honestly say you wouldn't have the same reactions. Id bring holy hell upon whoever I thought was responsible.

[Akhenaten]

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hey and you know what, thats fair of them to drop it. You dont hear a cop saying, oh well im not going to save that child because of reason A. Answer this one question

Totally inappropriate metaphor. There was between little and no reason to believe that someone was lost.

Your question assumes they see someone missing and just let them stay lost.

Whatever. I've read your posts. You take a strange pride in making the most contrary statements imaginable and then get pissy when you have to back them up.

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lol well actually i do hear that, the RCMP and Rescue team are saying there in the "quandry" because of these skiers, when the fact is that there in this because in the eyes of many they didnt act properly, simple as that.

What they are saying is they can't continue to take responsibility if the people going out of bounds take no responsibility at all.
This is your position from what I can see. Rules and guidelines mean nothing. People have no responsibility at all and SARS is responsible for every imaginable stupid-ass action someone could take. If you're a blind man in a t-shirt and shorts and you don't tell anyone where you're going it's up to SARS to rescue you. That's wrong.

I suppose if you douse yourself and your house in gasoline then light a match it's the firefighters fault if your house burns down and you spend your life looking like a human cheezy?

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Id bring holy hell upon whoever I thought was responsible.

IMO they were responsible the moment they went out of bounds in an area they were unfamiliar with, without telling anyone, with two granola bars and no matches, with no GPS, with no flare....nothing.

[martin14]

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

$1:

Id bring holy hell upon whoever I thought was responsible.

IMO they were responsible the moment they went out of bounds in an area they were unfamiliar with, without telling anyone, with two granola bars and no matches, with no GPS, with no flare....nothing.

[acidcomplex]

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

Totally inappropriate metaphor. There was between little and no reason to believe that someone was lost.

An SOS isnt enough reason? fake or not.

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

Your question assumes they see someone missing and just let them stay lost.

No it assumes that Cop A gets a help call from a payphone in an area that they dont "patrol". and said cops says "oh, well i dont need to help them cause there not in the "area" i patrol"

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

Whatever. I've read your posts. You take a strange pride in making the most contrary statements imaginable and then get pissy when you have to back them up.

I dont get pissy. I back them up then people get pissy at me when they dont get the answer they want , or i prove them wrong

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

What they are saying is they can't continue to take responsibility if the people going out of bounds take no responsibility at all.

Going in a summer jacket with no mits would have been " no responsibility at all"

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

This is your position from what I can see. Rules and guidelines mean nothing. People have no responsibility at all and SARS is responsible for every imaginable stupid-ass action someone could take. If you're a blind man in a t-shirt and shorts and you don't tell anyone where you're going it's up to SARS to rescue you. That's wrong.

Well no what im saying is that when people are in trouble, rules dont matter, guidelines as to whether to rescue someone dont matter, all that matter when someone is in need of help is that THEY NEED HELP end of story.

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

I suppose if you douse yourself and your house in gasoline then light a match it's the firefighters fault if your house burns down and you spend your life looking like a human cheezy?

Nope not there fault but in the same question would you expect them to get to that house and watch the man and the house burn? Well would you?

[acidcomplex]

martin14 martin14:

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

$1:

Id bring holy hell upon whoever I thought was responsible.

IMO they were responsible the moment they went out of bounds in an area they were unfamiliar with, without telling anyone, with two granola bars and no matches, with no GPS, with no flare....nothing.

guess the human thing to do would be to let them die right?.

[EyeBrock]

The human thing to do would be to carry on ignoring you.

[acidcomplex]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

The human thing to do would be to carry on ignoring you.

awwww someone a little bitter today?. Ignoring me wont make me any less right. You need to get laid or high or something so you can relax and not take everything so seriously

[Akhenaten]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

The human thing to do would be to carry on ignoring you.

awwww someone a little bitter today?. Ignoring me wont make me any less right. You need to get laid or high or something so you can relax and not take everything so seriously

Oh just STFU! You're not right. You are wrong. In every concievable way. This is why you have to outright lie about the situation before you even come close to having a point.

NOBODY LET THEM DIE. You can keep saying that over and over again but it's plain you are lying. Which is what you do. You come on here and take up the absolute stupidest most unjustifiable positions on purpose every single time just to get into it with people. You just need to keep on misrepresenting the facts of what happened to keep on with an argument you don't even beleive yourself.

lol..."Watched them die". What an insincere nob.

If you can't even understand the story then you should really just STFU and go back to your homework.

He killed his own wife. End of story. When the courts rule against him he can go into therapy to finally admit that but in the meantime this attack on innocent people WHO DID RESCUE HIM because he can't bring himself to admitting fault is pathetic.