[Doodles]

Everyone supports troops differently.

At least when the Liberals were in power, When one of out fallen camarades came home in a casket, The Liberals had the Canadian Flag lowered on the Peace Tower.

That stopped when Harper took over his reign.

And Why has not Harper shown his face at any of the ramp cermonies in Trenton.

How dare he sit there and say the opposition don't support the troops.

[EyeBrock]

The opposition have been doing a great job of making our troops look guilty over this prisoner fiasco. I'm sure it will help the Libs plummet further in the polls.

On the Peace Tower thing, the Tories reverted back to flag protocol which dictates that the flag be lowered on Nov 11th to remember all our fallen.

[ridenrain]

When did Chretien or Martin go to Afghanistan?

[HyperionTheEvil]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Harper has sussed out that the vast majority of Canadians are now very proud and supportive of their military. The Libs haven't and they will lose votes over it, rightly or wrongly.

This whole prisoner thing has blown up in the Liberals faces. The Tories are becoming teflon in a way that echoes the Chretien government.

What you say is true, however is the vast minority of Candians that actually want our troops to reamin in Afghanistan. Personally i'm sick of our country holding the Bag for the US fuck-ups in the Middle East. they wan't tp be the World Police, meh let them.

[Doodles]

ridenrain ridenrain:

When did Chretien or Martin go to Afghanistan?

So does a troop have to go to Afghanistan to deserve support?

[Akhenaten]

I for one don't think that the opposition doesn't support the troops. I would like to go on record saying that. This is just typical, "I know you are but what am I" crap.

I would say though that the Opposition inadvertedly attacked our nations credability and reputaion by making another mountain out of a complete lack of real evidence.

[EyeBrock]

Akhenaten, I think you are right on that. Some politicians just see a point and go for it without thinking about the 'big picture'. The Liberals have been particulary bad on this kind of stuff recently. They are just not thinking about the impact of each days sound bite.

[EyeBrock]

Doodles Doodles:

ridenrain ridenrain:

When did Chretien or Martin go to Afghanistan?

So does a troop have to go to Afghanistan to deserve support?

What is your problem? Your profile says 'military'. You don't sound like 'military'.

[Akhenaten]

$1:

The Liberals have been particulary bad on this kind of stuff recently

Yeah I agree but (and I'm not really disagreeing with you here) what bugs me in this case is I don't really care if someone in Britain or Belgium or France, Norway, wherever reads in the paper about Tory Logos on Gov't cheques. I don't care what they think about that.

I do care that they might walk away from this latest story thinking that, point blank, "Canadians are not above torturing". That bugs me a lot more. I don't blame the opposition for asking questions -- I blame them for asking questions when they already know the answers and those answers don't jive with what they're trying to insinuate.

[PluggyRug]

Harper stands behind our troops. Wonder how many Liberal politicians would be prepared to stand in front of our troops.

[ridenrain]

Doodles Doodles:

ridenrain ridenrain:

When did Chretien or Martin go to Afghanistan?

So does a troop have to go to Afghanistan to deserve support?

Your the one saying that Chretien & Martin suppirted the troops yet they didn't bother to go to Afghanistan and talk to them? Why not?

[OldChum]

The arguing on here only reinforces my believe that the nation is seriously divided

[herbie]

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

I for one don't think that the opposition doesn't support the troops. I would like to go on record saying that. This is just typical, "I know you are but what am I" crap.

I would say though that the Opposition inadvertedly attacked our nations credability and reputaion by making another mountain out of a complete lack of real evidence.

First part is what I said.

2nd part makes you wonder. People who play soccer with goatheads, rape wives and tell the Taliban where to plant IEDs are 'credible' but senior diplomats aren't?
I'm sure the senior generals can sit there and say there's no proof. Any 12 year old's heard of 'plausible deniability'.
The Warden says some were tortured. The Minister (Peter Mackay) admits there were concerns as far back as 2006. Nuff said.
They'll torture anyone soon as we're not looking.

[Akhenaten]

$1:

2nd part makes you wonder. People who play soccer with goatheads, rape wives and tell the Taliban where to plant IEDs are 'credible' but senior diplomats aren't?

I'm not getting that. Who's quoting 'people who play soccer with goats'? If I'm not mistaken some of Colvins 'proof' came from people he never met over the phone, and apparently even then it was ambiguous.

Senior diplomat? OK which one? The 'senior' one or his boss?

$1:

I'm sure the senior generals can sit there and say there's no proof.

Yeah but that's not what they said. Put the two testimony's together side by side and General Hiller seems much more credible frankly.

$1:

The Minister (Peter Mackay) admits there were concerns as far back as 2006. Nuff said.

No, that's not enough said....and,

$1:

They'll torture anyone soon as we're not looking.

that's not what he said.

Look you want to paint in all the vast gaps you can't see with whatever you like then go ahead. But you don't know. The 'warnings' at this point by all accounts, including Colvins (considering he can't specifically remember), are vauge at best. That's not a partisan statement. I think in any legal sense it's pretty fair.

I dunno. I guess I'm not understanding your point. My point was that the opposition has no problem yakking on with accusations that paint the entire country in a really poor light when the evidence clearly shows that Canada reacted any time there was actual evidence.

[kenmore]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Doodles Doodles:

ridenrain ridenrain:

When did Chretien or Martin go to Afghanistan?

So does a troop have to go to Afghanistan to deserve support?

Your the one saying that Chretien & Martin suppirted the troops yet they didn't bother to go to Afghanistan and talk to them? Why not?

Answer..... they weren't into photo ops!