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CanadianLynx
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 10:48 am
guess they will soon charge for any item that has a plastic wrapping.. 
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 10:50 am
Proculation Proculation: Oh and btw commerderkai, I've never seen that here that you have to pay for plastic bags ? My grandmother lives in St. Leonard, and it was a Maxi around here. (Don't ask the road, the hell if I know) and yeah, I wanted plastic bags, and wondered where they were, and then I was told by both my grandmother, and a nice French guy waiting in line behind me that they are forcing people to pay for it, and my grandmother forgot her bags at home.
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 10:56 am
I live in st-Hubert and they charge for the bags at Metro. That's the only grocery store that charges around here, except for La Société des Alcools.
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:01 am
that's totally stupid. Anyway, they make biodegradable bags now.
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:07 am
Extra Foods(I think they are part of Loblaw's) began to charge a nickle for the plastic bags sometime this month. They are selling the reusable cloth bags (I am not sure what they are made of, but it appears to be some sort of woven plastic material) cheap, $1.49 for large and $0.99 for small (the small were going for 0.49 last week.} My only complaint is these bags are so useful for other things. My kids come over to get something or other of theirs and leave with it in one of the bags. Oh well! Extra Foods also has a folding bag that is easy to carry in your pocket. It's made of nylon and has it's own carrying case. It, when full, fits perfectly in the folding basket I have on the back of my bike, making shopping by bike very easy. I like em!
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 10:52 pm
Real Canadian Superstores here have always charged for plastic bags, now Extra Foods is doing it too. Proculation Proculation: I live in Montreal and there is something really stupid in the groceries: Each time I go, if I forget to ask for paper bags, they put my things in plastic bags. Why ? I always want paper bags. That's much more handy. They take more stuff and are easier to handle. My father has a grocery and I worked there a lot when I was young. Plastic bags were an exception.
Oh and btw commerderkai, I've never seen that here that you have to pay for plastic bags ? They don't know that though, so you need to always remember to ask for paper bags. 
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:17 am
CanadianLynx CanadianLynx: guess they will soon charge for any item that has a plastic wrapping..  They already do. Importers pay huge duty on all plastic wrapping and that is already passed on to the consumer via the price.
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:19 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock: LCBO near my downtown Toronto condo does not distribute plastic bags at all. Paper only, I asked them why, they said environmental concerns of local residents.
No other LCBO I have been to has a "no plastic bags" policy anywhere in Canada yet. I'd be interested to know if anyone has seen anything similar in their 'local' LCBO branches.
Really though, plastic bags are fucked up, non-bio degradable. The LCBO has been doing this in my neighbourhood for quite a while too. I dont think its just local policy.
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:23 am
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 8:13 am
I live in the Montreal area and I haven't seen a paper bag in a grocery for along time. The fact of charging for plastic bags is supposed to be a deterrent so people will use reusable bags.. It takes decades for plastic to break down in a landfill. And while there are some who like to deny the pollution and environmental crises the world is facing, it is a fact that we have to start yesterday doing something about it. That being said the large supermarkets are making huge profits and Lawblas recorded record profit this year in a recession. I think they could afford to offer paper or reusable bags for free (depending on the order value) and charge a nominal fee for those who purchase less.. We use reusable bags and have for some years. My daughter in Law comes from Belfast Norther Ireland and they did away with plastic bags years ago.. In Ontario they charge 5c for a plastic bag that usually breaks before you get to the car!
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:11 am
What?? Men aren't allowed to shop anymore? Sweet!! 
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:32 am
I remember when groceries and everything else were always packed in paper bags. I think plastic bags became the in thing when there was concern over how many trees had to die to make paper bags. It was a matter of "conserving our forests" or something like that. So we traded one concern to create another concern that I think is even worse, at least paper breaks down and we have not run out of trees yet. But you can't win, there's no perfect solution.
I have a neat lightweight nylon bag that folds up and zips up into a little pouch that's 7" x 3", small enough to carry in my purse. When you unfold it the pouch becomes an outer pocket on the bag that ends up being about 15" x 15". Not too big and I wouldn't put anything too heavy in it but when I do a few errands like I did yesterday I put everything I purchased into it. I made 5 stops so really I saved 5 plastic bags. I also use heavy-duty nylon bags that I bought at the grocery store (Save-on-Foods, western Canada equivalent to Loblaws I think) for packing groceries in. They were only $1.49 and hold as much as 2-3 plastics bags. When you use them the store gives you points on their "rewards" system.
I have no problem with paying a nickle for a plastic bag if I must but that nickle should go towards a recycling program or other worthwhile cause. We all should do something, no matter how small, to contribute towards reducing the amount of waste that goes into our landfills.
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:37 am
kenmore kenmore: I live in the Montreal area and I haven't seen a paper bag in a grocery for along time. The fact of charging for plastic bags is supposed to be a deterrent so people will use reusable bags.. It takes decades for plastic to break down in a landfill. Some biodegradable plastic take decades. HDPE can take 12,000 years to break down.
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:50 am
Strutz Strutz: I have no problem with paying a nickle for a plastic bag if I must but that nickle should go towards a recycling program or other worthwhile cause. We all should do something, no matter how small, to contribute towards reducing the amount of waste that goes into our landfills. That's why I think a nickel isn't enough. They should charge a quarter per bag, that would make people think twice about using them. Think about it: twenty bags of groceries will only come to a dollar at five cents each. That doesn't give much incentive to switch to reusable bags, when most people will barely blink at an extra dollar. But at $0.25 each, that comes to $5 worth of grocery bags, which would make it cheaper or approximately equivelant to buy a couple of reusable bags and pack them well. And that's another thing. Does anyone else ever notice just how many plastic bags get used to bring home a large load of groceries? It's ridiculous! Because the bags are so weak, they can't put much in them so you end up with a shopping cart full of bags, which could usually be contained by only two or three reusable bags!
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Posts: 6584
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:51 am
I guess that nickel/bag is a kind of tax to the stores. I mean, who gets the nickel: the store or the government 
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