[Yogi]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

Yogi Yogi:

On the part of the young men's thinking, they had no reason whatsoever to think that rozkos' claims were not just more of his hot air. Couple that, based on the past actions of the police and courts in regards to rozco, with the men's personal past experience with rozco for his bullying and intimidation tactics going unpunished, why would they 'report it to the RCMP'?

Would you report a bully or a thief again if he got off from the poilce?. I would. Oh yeah and in a situation like that common sense says to "be safe then sorry"

Yogi Yogi:

They felt it would just be , another ride on the merry-go round'! This time they made the wrong choice. A classic case of ' the boy who cried wolf'! Certainly I don't condone the outcome, but I have asked again and again, ' How could they possibly have known that this time...???

Cause there officers with training and are in a job where there supposed to question everything, thats why in some states and cities when a driver is pulled over and a lone officer is there they either approach with gun drawn or ask the offender to exit the vehicle themselves . Its happened to me twice in three years.

The history of how rozko was dealt with by the law and the courts is very well documented. Read up on it. This is all these guys had on which to base their decision not to report rozko 'this time'. Time and again, when someone made a complaint against rozko, the Mounties would usually just go 'talk to him'. This just pissed rozko off and of course he would figure out where the complaint originated from and go exact his revenge, then he would only get 'another taliking to'! I believe that in approx 30 years of complaints rozco only went to jail twice, both short stints.
We HAVE TO lay SOME of the blame on the police and courts themselves for not dealing with rozko much more seriously, MUCH SOONER!

Try to look at this From Cheesemans' and Hennessys' point of view;

" jimmy says he's gonna really go and shoot some cops 'this time'. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Nothing he hasn't said many times before. More hot air! If we go tell the cops, they aren't going to believe us, and even if they do, all they are going to do is go 'talk' to jimmy again and then jimmy's gonna be real pissed off with us and come after us and our families again. As he has threatened to do many times before whenever anyone wouldn't do what he wants or tells the cops on him. What's the point?"

Looking at it from this point of view, I can understand their decision not to say anything. Unfortunately this time was different! Who could have known?

[acidcomplex]

Yogi Yogi:

We HAVE TO lay SOME of the blame on the police and courts themselves for not dealing with rozko much more seriously, MUCH SOONER!

Agreed

Yogi Yogi:

Try to look at this From Cheesemans' and Hennessys' point of view;

" jimmy says he's gonna really go and shoot some cops 'this time'. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Nothing he hasn't said many times before. More hot air! If we go tell the cops, they aren't going to believe us, and even if they do, all they are going to do is go 'talk' to jimmy again and then jimmy's gonna be real pissed off with us and come after us and our families again. As he has threatened to do many times before whenever anyone wouldn't do what he wants or tells the cops on him. What's the point?"

So they believe that he will come after them as he "stated many times before" and didnt but they dont believe he is going to "kill the cops this time" and did?

I can see what your saying, just seems a little odd

[Yogi]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

Yogi Yogi:

We HAVE TO lay SOME of the blame on the police and courts themselves for not dealing with rozko much more seriously, MUCH SOONER!

Agreed

Yogi Yogi:

Try to look at this From Cheesemans' and Hennessys' point of view;

" jimmy says he's gonna really go and shoot some cops 'this time'. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Nothing he hasn't said many times before. More hot air! If we go tell the cops, they aren't going to believe us, and even if they do, all they are going to do is go 'talk' to jimmy again and then jimmy's gonna be real pissed off with us and come after us and our families again. As he has threatened to do many times before whenever anyone wouldn't do what he wants or tells the cops on him. What's the point?"

What I, and the majority of the population find 'odd' is the fact that rozko was allowed to get away with his bullshit for as long as he did. Eveyone involved in each and every one of his escapades must shoulder some blame, but IMO, the judicial system should by far take the biggest hit! They are the ones who allowed this to escalate to the point that it did. But of course, the crown now has 'done due diligence' and convicted a scapegoat(s) to appease the publics demand for 'justice'. They can only hope, (and it probably will turn out in their favor) that we the public will 'let the matter go now' and not demand that the crown also 'prosecute their own'!


So they believe that he will come after them as he "stated many times before" and didnt but they dont believe he is going to "kill the cops this time" and did?

I can see what your saying, just seems a little odd

[ridenrain]

So were these 2 hicks business associates in his grow op?
Chalk up another link between drugs and violence.

[Yogi]

ridenrain ridenrain:

So were these 2 hicks business associates in his grow op?
Chalk up another link between drugs and violence.

One of them has admitted to 'being involved' in the grow-op.

[Robair]

Yogi Yogi:

Looking at it from this point of view, I can understand their decision not to say anything. Unfortunately this time was different! Who could have known?

That's a good argument, except that the last time they saw him, he had his boots muffled with socks and was marching off in the dark toward the mounties with a loaded rifle.

That wouldn't look like "just more talk" to me. Pleading guilty was probably the smart thing for them to do.

[Yogi]

Robair Robair:

Yogi Yogi:

Looking at it from this point of view, I can understand their decision not to say anything. Unfortunately this time was different! Who could have known?

That's a good argument, except that the last time they saw him, he had his boots muffled with socks and was marching off in the dark toward the mounties with a loaded rifle.

That wouldn't look like "just more talk" to me. Pleading guilty was probably the smart thing for them to do.

Don't get me wrong here. I'm not 'arguing on their behalf', rather just saying that I can understand the thinking behind their decision not to report roszco's stated intentions to the RCMP. I think they should have. And based upon the outcome this time, they would have legally been in the clear as well their consciences would be clear as then 'they would have done all they could do'.