[bootlegga]

I don't see any states dominated by China either. Amazingly, Vietnam, India, Russia, Pakistan, and pretty much everyone else nearby has very cordial or excellent relations with them.

It's only paranoid right wingers like you who think they are bent on world domination.

[DerbyX]

bootlegga bootlegga:

I don't see any states dominated by China either. Amazingly, Vietnam, India, Russia, Pakistan, and pretty much everyone else nearby has very cordial or excellent relations with them.

It's only paranoid right wingers like you who think they are bent on world domination.

Logic and truth is like kryptonite to him. It causes him to wither away unless a busty secretary happens to stumble along.

[ridenrain]

What about Tibet and Taiwan? You also didn't mention North Korea, Burma and a few other countries that simply wouldn't exist if it weren't for the past and present protection of the Communist Chinese.

To reflect, I don't see any colonies surrounding the US. I don't see poor Puerto Rico crying to be free. Mexico isn't fighting to excape the US; it's actually the reverse. South Korea is now one of the US's best and most powerful friends in the region.

It's a night and day difference but you're refusing to drop the propaganda and accept that.

[Zipperfish]

Why the heck would China send soldiers to Afgnaitan? It's not their fight.

[ridenrain]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Why the heck would China send soldiers to Afgnaitan? It's not their fight.

.. not to mention that Afgnaitan isn't even a real country..
What's next.. imagination land?

[Zipperfish]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Why the heck would China send soldiers to Afgnaitan? It's not their fight.

.. not to mention that Afgnaitan isn't even a real country..
What's next.. imagination land?

Bastard!!!!

[DerbyX]

North Korea isn't under the thumb of China and Tibet and Taiwan are regions that China recognizes its own ancient claim.

The reason why the US doesn't have loads of regions crying for self govt is because they (like us) effectively made sure that no indigenous people existed in enough numbers and authourity to make that claim.

You truly don't see the hypocracy and destruction tha US has often wrought for its own ends.

All you want to do is spew vile hatred of china. Guess what? They really don't care what you think and they are going to do it anyway.

What are you going to do anyway? Refuse to eat at Golden Palace?

[bootlegga]

ridenrain ridenrain:

What about Tibet and Taiwan? You also didn't mention North Korea, Burma and a few other countries that simply wouldn't exist if it weren't for the past and present protection of the Communist Chinese.

To reflect, I don't see any colonies surrounding the US. I don't see poor Puerto Rico crying to be free. Mexico isn't fighting to excape the US; it's actually the reverse. South Korea is now one of the US's best and most powerful friends in the region.

It's a night and day difference but you're refusing to drop the propaganda and accept that.

Tibet and Taiwan are part of China, which even the US recognizes. They have been a part of China for far longer than any of us have been in North America, so this is a spurious claim. You can say that the relations are not great, but if that's true, why is Taiwan one of China's biggest foreign investors? Why are they meeting and talking about making relations better?

November 21/08 - Historic meeting between China and Taiwan

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/081121/w ... a_taiwan_1

November 17/08 - Direct flights to mainland soon

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/0811 ... aiwan_ma_1

Oops, maybe their not quite ready to launch nukes just yet...

You can sit there and say whatever you want, but Taiwan is part of China, just like the South was part of the US. Why was it okay for Lincoln to burn down half of the country (and totally destroy the economy in the South), but it's not okay for China to threaten to use force?

I don't agree with the use of force, but really, it's not for you or me to say how China deals with internal matters like this. Canada may have chosen to let Quebec go if they chose, but lots of other countries are equally adamant that their nation is indivisible. Why not China?

[Thanos]

bootlegga bootlegga:

I don't see any states dominated by China either. Amazingly, Vietnam, India, Russia, Pakistan, and pretty much everyone else nearby has very cordial or excellent relations with them.

It's only paranoid right wingers like you who think they are bent on world domination.

The Burmese junta is predominantly a Chinese client regime. It's been nearly impossible for anyone to do anything in the UN against the Burmese generals because China keeps blocking any action against them.

China was also the main arms supplier for Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge during the Cambodian genocide of the late 1970's.

China might not be interesed in global dominance, which would probably be impossible for them to acheive anyway given the military strength of the United States and the frequently forgotten fact that the Chinese/Russian co-operation usually doesn't happen very often as they don't particularly like each other and have dropped the gloves with each other on numerous occasions over the centuries. But they have always considered themselves to be the regional hegemon and will behave accordingly as it suits their interests.

[ridenrain]

I knew we'd disagree on Taiwan but pardon me if I hold the ideals of a free and modern, vibrant nation above those of an ancient and corupt kingdom. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.. " and all that.

Taiwan stands on it's on and deserves to. Jimmy Carter and the rest of his cowardly ilk can go prostate themselves to whatever foreign potentates they choose but if their "one China" viosion includes Taiwan, they might as well sell off the statue of liberty because they don't deserve it any more.

I'm still not seeing or hearing of these US satellite states though. You're proven unable to name any nation that is locked as Tibet, Taiwan, Burma, etc. You might include Somolia and Mosambique to that list, if that slow boat from China of illegal arms got through.

Derby:

$1:

Mr. Smith go4es to Washington: Jefferson Smith:
I guess this is just another lost cause, Mr. Paine. All you people don't know about lost causes. Mr. Paine does. He said once they were the only causes worth fighting for. And he fought for them once, for the only reason any man ever fights for them; because of just one plain simple rule: 'Love thy neighbor.'... And you know that you fight for the lost causes harder than for any other. Yes, you even die for them.

Have you ever seen that movie? I doubt it. If you did, you probably wouldn't be a Liberal.

[DerbyX]

Ever seen bethune?

[DerbyX]

Your hatred is simply beyond compare. You have no understanding of the difficulties governing 1.3 billion people considering we have trouble with just 32 million some 0.02% of their pop.

Cry all you want. Means nothing. In 88 they sent in tanks to quell unrest. In ibet much later they sent in riot police. They are coming to terms with modernization.

You can just piss off because nothing you say truly matters to them.

[ridenrain]

I just was made aware of this fellow and I'll admit that I'm jandiced by the proven ability of the Chinese to manipulate the media. Who else could take a catastrophic famine and pretend it was an industrial revolution, after all.


If the communist party of China orany government can't provide an acceptable human standard for their people, they should surender regions to what they can maintain. Taiwan obviously is more than capable to take care of itself, and I bet Tibet would be more than happy to give it a try.
If they did, you'd see support that would make the Berlin Aitlift look like nothing.

[DerbyX]

You support terrorist operations conducted under the guise of defeating an evil govt. Your beliefs have killed woman and children.

Your opinion and misunderstanding of China is therefore rescinded.

You have no right, no authourity, no understanding, and no ability to criticize people doing something you cannot comprehend.

In short you are so far beneath them, your opinion does not matter.

Enjoy your eggrolls.

[ridenrain]

Yeah.. yeah.. and I'm a child molester and I don't return Library books. It's true that I am a very bad man.


Are you second from the left?
Ref: Great leap forward and all the panda-hugging ass-kissers who chose to say one thing and look the other way.