[scarecrowe]

In the London Free Press on Nov. 17, 2008, is an article mentioning that a professor of paleoclimatology at UWO is stating that climate change is a natural phenomenon and is in no way related to human activity. In addition, he states that global cooling is now more likely than warming.

[Tricks]

scarecrowe scarecrowe:

In the London Free Press on Nov. 17, 2008, is an article mentioning that a professor of paleoclimatology at UWO is stating that climate change is a natural phenomenon and is in no way related to human activity. In addition, he states that global cooling is now more likely than warming.

WOOOOOOOO! WESTERN FTW!!!!

[stemmer]

scarecrowe scarecrowe:

In the London Free Press on Nov. 17, 2008, is an article mentioning that a professor of paleoclimatology at UWO is stating that climate change is a natural phenomenon and is in no way related to human activity. In addition, he states that global cooling is now more likely than warming.

Kindly post a link to the article. I'm not refuting the article BUT I would love to read it...and present it to some of my friends who believe in global warming is caused by man.....

[hurley_108]

stemmer stemmer:

scarecrowe scarecrowe:

In the London Free Press on Nov. 17, 2008, is an article mentioning that a professor of paleoclimatology at UWO is stating that climate change is a natural phenomenon and is in no way related to human activity. In addition, he states that global cooling is now more likely than warming.

Kindly post a link to the article. I'm not refuting the article BUT I would love to read it...and present it to some of my friends who believe in global warming is caused by man.....

Learn to google.

http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/ ... 6-sun.html

[hurley_108]

To sum it up, CO2 is plant food, and the sun is weak allowing cosmic rays which make clouds which cool the planet. But he still makes the appeal to common sense by framing his suggested course of action as being a result not of his status as a climate change scientist, but as a scout leader.

[Wazz]

Crichton is a writer, not a scientist. Thanks, but I'll take the findings of thousands of scientists, worldwide, and their research on global warming and who have concluded that the reality of global warming is unequivocal - for example the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change - and that humans play a large role in it - over the musings of a novelist, anyday.

[hurley_108]

Wazz Wazz:

Crichton is a writer, not a scientist. Thanks, but I'll take the findings of thousands of scientists, worldwide, and their research on global warming and who have concluded that the reality of global warming is unequivocal - for example the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change - and that humans play a large role in it - over the musings of a novelist, anyday.

Crichton was one of the most researched novelists who ever put pen to paper. That he was a novelist is not a valid reason to toss out his conclusions.

[EyeBrock]

There has been no definitive evidence either way. I'm all for tackling pollution, building fuel effecient cars etc, I'm just not convinced that the 'global warming' mantra we are being force fed by the politically activist types is kosher.

There are just too many counter arguments against human carbon emmissions being the root cause of a warming trend that has grown cooler since 2005.

I'm more concerned with the shrinking rain forests and the destruction of world wide marine life with over fishing.

Show me definitive proof and I'll have it.
A large group of like minded scientists sharing the same theory doesn't make it gospel, after all 400 years ago science said the earth was flat.
It appears they were wrong.

[hurley_108]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

There has been no definitive evidence either way. I'm all for tackling pollution, building fuel effecient cars etc, I'm just not convinced that the 'global warming' mantra we are being force fed by the politically activist types is kosher.

There are just too many counter arguments against human carbon emmissions being the root cause of a warming trend that has grown cooler since 2005.

I'm more concerned with the shrinking rain forests and the destruction of world wide marine life with over fishing.

Show me definitive proof and I'll have it.
A large group of like minded scientists sharing the same theory doesn't make it gospel, after all 400 years ago science said the earth was flat.
It appears they were wrong.

Actually science was proving the Earth was not flat hundreds of years BC. In 330BC, Artistotle pointed out that a circular shadow of the Earth on the Moon can only come from a spherical Earth, and he noted that people voyaging south saw southern constellations rise higher in the sky - also impossible from a flat Earth. In 240 BC, Eratosthenes made the first measurement of the circumference of the Earth after noting that in one southerly part of Egypt, the sun's rays can reach the bottoms of wells, but in a northerly part, they don't - implying curvature - and his estimate was even reasonably good. Science NEVER said the Earth was flat.

Science also never proves that a theory is right, it can only say that one theory is consistent with evidence, and that other theories are not.

[EyeBrock]

Science in the west 400 years ago was preaching the earth was flat and that the sun orbited the earth. That's a defintive fact.

Global warming is far from being a definitive fact, despite Arisotle.

[Wazz]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Wazz Wazz:

Crichton is a writer, not a scientist. Thanks, but I'll take the findings of thousands of scientists, worldwide, and their research on global warming and who have concluded that the reality of global warming is unequivocal - for example the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change - and that humans play a large role in it - over the musings of a novelist, anyday.

Crichton was one of the most researched novelists who ever put pen to paper. That he was a novelist is not a valid reason to toss out his conclusions.

Sure it is, because his conculsions are not scientific. On the other hand the most respected scientific bodies and organizations in the world have stated unequivocally that global warming is occurring, and people are causing it by burning fossil fuels. The US National Academy of Sciences, the afore-mentioned Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and several various other countries' national science academies etc. all concur and are all warning us. The matter is not whether or not global warming is occuring or if humans play a large role in it - that has been scientifically established - the only remaining scientific debate about global warming is about how much and how fast global warming will continue as a result of atmospherically trapped carbon emissions.

[EyeBrock]

There are also numerous scientific sources that dispute alleged human causes of alleged global warming.

Who's right? As I've previously stated, the proof either way is far from solid.

In the mean time let's tackle pollution and search out better fuels.

[hurley_108]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Science in the west 400 years ago was preaching the earth was flat and that the sun orbited the earth. That's a defintive fact.

News to me.

[hurley_108]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

There are also numerous scientific sources that dispute alleged human causes of alleged global warming.

Who's right? As I've previously stated, the proof either way is far from solid.

In the mean time let's tackle pollution and search out better fuels.

Yes, tackle pollution. Tackle SO2, which China and India are also spewing in great quantity, and which has a net cooling effect.

From 1940 to 1970 the Earth cooled, despite massive industrialization, possibly due to the SO2 that came with the CO2. In 1970, SO2 started to be cut back, and the tmperature line started up again. Now China's going hard, burning high-sulphur coal. Just wait and see what happens if they curb their pollution before addressing carbon. My prediction: for the next 20 or so years, temperatures will cool slightly, but then China will clean up the sulphur and temperatures will skyrocket again.

[stemmer]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

stemmer stemmer:

scarecrowe scarecrowe:

In the London Free Press on Nov. 17, 2008, is an article mentioning that a professor of paleoclimatology at UWO is stating that climate change is a natural phenomenon and is in no way related to human activity. In addition, he states that global cooling is now more likely than warming.

Kindly post a link to the article. I'm not refuting the article BUT I would love to read it...and present it to some of my friends who believe in global warming is caused by man.....

Learn to google.

http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/ ... 6-sun.html

Thanks for the find... I tried google but no luck... I'm passing this off to the global warming punks in the office...