[Pimpbrewski]

Not sure how this has to become a bashing thread !

Probably will not matter much anyways, other than the language issue. Anglos should be allowed as much as the next one, therefore it could attract more from Europe. Have them learn French once they are here.

[Brenda]

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

Not sure how this has to become a bashing thread !

Probably will not matter much anyways, other than the language issue. Anglos should be allowed as much as the next one, therefore it could attract more from Europe. Have them learn French once they are here.

You cannot immigrate to Quebec without French. You have to fill out your paperwork in French... And more of that shit...

[MacDonaill]

Marc01 Marc01:

La commission Bouchard-Taylor a statué que le multiculturalisme ne convenait pas pour le Québec, c'est pour nous une évidence depuis longtemps. Ça fait consensus au Québec, arrête de chercher des poux.

Pour ce qui est de Trudeau, jamais depuis qu'il a rapatrié la constitution en 1982 le PArti Libéral n'a réussi à récupérer une majorité de sièges au Québec, et cela même avant l'apparition du Bloc. Nous n'avons jamais pardonné à Trudeau et aux Libéraux d'avoir rappatrié la Constitution sans le Québec.

Même si une majorité des Québécois ne l'aime pas, «majorité» n'est pas synonyme de «tout le monde». En plus, n'importe quel parti peut prendre une majorité des sièges sans avoir une majorité des voix.

Deuxièmement, cette commission était un désastre depuis le début. Elle ne parle pas non plus au nom de tout le monde (heureusement).

[Marc01]

snookums snookums:

kenmore kenmore:

equality for the sexes.

I would argue that has NOTHING to do with Quebec - that is it in fact a CANADIAN value. Quebec was actually the last one to grant any 'equality for the sexes'

Last province to get provincial vote and the Persons Case could tell you why I think it has nothing to do with Quebec

Equality for the sexes became a value of Québec, Canada hasn't the monopoly of good values stupid.

[MacDonaill]

ElvisGratton ElvisGratton:

@Macdonaill

Well well well Multiculturalisms is only one model amongst many other model to integrate immigrant into the society. And I do agree that a very large part of the population here do not agree with it. I would also point out that not all Canadian in the ROC agree with it either.

Vous n'avez pas compris, ou quoi? J'ai dit expressément que je n'était pas nécessairement d'accord avec le multiculturalisme. Autrement dit, je ne me suis pas prononcé là-dessus.

En fait, d'une part je suis d'accord avec lui, et d'autre part je ne le suis pas. Pas envie de tout expliquer, à vrai dire.

[Brenda]

You calling Snookums stupid?

[Marc01]

MacDonaill MacDonaill:

Marc01 Marc01:

La commission Bouchard-Taylor a statué que le multiculturalisme ne convenait pas pour le Québec, c'est pour nous une évidence depuis longtemps. Ça fait consensus au Québec, arrête de chercher des poux.

Pour ce qui est de Trudeau, jamais depuis qu'il a rapatrié la constitution en 1982 le Parti Libéral n'a réussi à récupérer une majorité de sièges au Québec, et cela même avant l'apparition du Bloc. Nous n'avons jamais pardonné à Trudeau et aux Libéraux d'avoir rappatrié la Constitution sans le Québec.

Même si une majorité des Québécois ne l'aime pas, «majorité» n'est pas synonyme de «tout le monde». En plus, n'importe quel parti peut prendre une majorité des sièges sans avoir une majorité des voix.

Deuxièmement, cette commission était un désastre depuis le début. Elle ne parle pas non plus au nom de tout le monde (heureusement).

What in the word "consensus" you don't understand ? There is marginal people who thinks differently, like there is some people who think what Hitler did was good and some think we should be communists. I don't consider theses opinions if it's below 5%.

Et puis la Commission n'est pas un désastre, là ou la Commission a fait fausse route, c'est quand elle vient dire à la majorité québécoise que nous devrions nous appeler "Québécois d'origine canadienne-française". À ça je répond : Vas-Chier man !" Mais sinon certaines des recommandations sont souhaitables, dont celle demandant à ne pas considérer le multiculturalisme au Québec. Même Charles Taylor, un fédéraliste anglophone, en a convenu.

[Marc01]

Brenda Brenda:

You calling Snookums stupid?

She always try to jutify her hate toward Québec with her academics, and this is something really stupid.

[Brenda]

Marc01 Marc01:

Brenda Brenda:

You calling Snookums stupid?

She always try to jutify her hate toward Québec with her academics, and this is something really stupid.

I think she is right

Then again, calling something stupid, or a person stupid is a bit different too.

Are you a Quebecois?

[RUEZ]

Marc01 Marc01:

Equality for the sexes became a value of Québec, Canada hasn't the monopoly of good values stupid.

It's funny when you say something like this because you are talking about the same place.

[Pimpbrewski]

Brenda Brenda:

You cannot immigrate to Quebec without French. You have to fill out your paperwork in French... And more of that shit...

Look, I am no expert by any means. I have seen plenty of Anglos, especially in Montreal West, get by, but they probably speak some French.

Also not sure, but always assumed that immigration was a Federal issue. Therefore it should have it in both official languages.

[Marc01]

Brenda Brenda:

Marc01 Marc01:

Brenda Brenda:

You calling Snookums stupid?

She always try to jutify her hate toward Québec with her academics, and this is something really stupid.

I think she is right

Then again, calling something stupid, or a person stupid is a bit different too.

Are you a Quebecois?

Oui je suis un Québécois.

You think she is right ? How can you agree with a pure lie ? Equality of sexes is definitely a Québec value and nobody who is connected with Québec society could deny it.

[Brenda]

Marc01 Marc01:

Brenda Brenda:

Oui je suis un Québécois.

You think she is right ? How can you agree with a pure lie ? Equality of sexes is definitely a Québec value and nobody who is connected with Québec society could deny it.

Ah, there we go. So, Quebec is not a part of Canada, Canada is not a western country, and in the western, Christian Culture of today, equality of sexes is not common and hasn't been for years.
Glad we set that straight.

[Brenda]

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

Brenda Brenda:

You cannot immigrate to Quebec without French. You have to fill out your paperwork in French... And more of that shit...

Look, I am no expert by any means. I have seen plenty of Anglos, especially in Montreal West, get by, but they probably speak some French.

Also not sure, but always assumed that immigration was a Federal issue. Therefore it should have it in both official languages.

Yeah, it is, unless you want to immigrate to Quebec.
You can move to Quebec once you landed, but if you want to move to Quebec specifically, you need French. And all your paperwork should be in French. Among other things.

[snookums]

Marc01 Marc01:

Brenda Brenda:

You calling Snookums stupid?

She always try to jutify her hate toward Québec with her academics, and this is something really stupid.

Oh dear, little man, YOU ARE THE ONE THAT BROUGHT ACADEMICS INTO THIS SHIT...

Remember that:

$1:

Tu as étudié combien de temps en histoire ? Je possède un baccalauréat en histoire de l'Université Laval. J'ai passé trois ans de ma vie à étudier l'histoire.

Don't get all uppy-dee-doo when someone has more credentials than you - YOU BROUGHT IT ON YOURSELF So get lost with your whining...

$1:

You think she is right ? How can you agree with a pure lie ? Equality of sexes is definitely a Québec value and nobody who is connected with Québec society could deny it.

As for this, PROVE ME WRONG. Equality of the sexes has NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING to do with Québec. The feds initiated it, then most provinces followed it EXCEPT Québec until 1940. If you can prove me that without the right to vote women in Quebec had OH SO MUCH than the women in Canada, then show me the money. I never argued that it wasn't part of Quebec, just that the idea of sex equality wasn't born or bred in Quebec.

Sure it is part of Quebec NOW but if you put it on the same level as language, religion, culture, i.e as being distinct, I have a piece of land in Nunavut with your name on it.