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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:47 am
 


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There's an old Reform saying that goes "If you make a man a fire, he will be warm, but if you set him on fire.. no wait, that's not it...

We can provide what we said we would and sell the surplus but who pays the farmers?
I'm not against emergency air for things like tsunami or earthquake victims but countries that have been starving for a decade really need to fix themselves.

The issue isn't quantity but cost.


It would be about cost if the production/distribution costs of food were responsible for the prices' increases.


Production and distribution costs are partly responsible. Have you seen the price of gas lately?


The price of gas would be about cost if the production/distribution costs of gas were responsible for its increase in price.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:51 am
 


Benoit Benoit:
Ripcat Ripcat:
Benoit Benoit:
Ripcat Ripcat:
ridenrain ridenrain:
There's an old Reform saying that goes "If you make a man a fire, he will be warm, but if you set him on fire.. no wait, that's not it...

We can provide what we said we would and sell the surplus but who pays the farmers?
I'm not against emergency air for things like tsunami or earthquake victims but countries that have been starving for a decade really need to fix themselves.

The issue isn't quantity but cost.


It would be about cost if the production/distribution costs of food were responsible for the prices' increases.


Production and distribution costs are partly responsible. Have you seen the price of gas lately?


The price of gas would be about cost if the production/distribution costs of gas were responsible for its increase in price.

Haha, keep chasing your tail...


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:53 am
 


Ripcat Ripcat:
Benoit Benoit:
Ripcat Ripcat:
Benoit Benoit:
Ripcat Ripcat:
ridenrain ridenrain:
There's an old Reform saying that goes "If you make a man a fire, he will be warm, but if you set him on fire.. no wait, that's not it...

We can provide what we said we would and sell the surplus but who pays the farmers?
I'm not against emergency air for things like tsunami or earthquake victims but countries that have been starving for a decade really need to fix themselves.

The issue isn't quantity but cost.


It would be about cost if the production/distribution costs of food were responsible for the prices' increases.


Production and distribution costs are partly responsible. Have you seen the price of gas lately?


The price of gas would be about cost if the production/distribution costs of gas were responsible for its increase in price.

Haha, keep chasing your tail...


I'm chasing speculators.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:55 am
 


Food, like every other commodity is priced by the markets. The cost of oil has a huge adverse affect on the supply of food so the markets are in some way responsible for the price of rice. Damn disgrace that people are starving in this century because of financial greed.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:05 am
 


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Damn disgrace that people are starving in this century because of financial greed.


The politically correct phrasing is to the effect that, after the debacle of the US mortgages market, savvy and wealthy investors are seeking refuge in basic commodities like energy and grains.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:48 pm
 


Part of the problem is the IMF/WTO dictating to the Third World that Food Markets need to be Open to Foreign Competition. Food Markets are the one Market that every Nation should be allowed to Protect from Foreign Competition. This is especially true for the Third World where Agriculture is still a major part of Domestic Economies.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:08 pm
 


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Part of the problem is the IMF/WTO dictating to the Third World that Food Markets need to be Open to Foreign Competition. Food Markets are the one Market that every Nation should be allowed to Protect from Foreign Competition. This is especially true for the Third World where Agriculture is still a major part of Domestic Economies.


There is no Third World anymore since the Communist Bloc is gone.

Developing economies have only to be protected against dumping.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:13 pm
 


Alberta1 Alberta1:
Damn disgrace that people are starving in this century because of financial greed.
But you just said this:
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Food, like every other commodity is priced by the markets.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:16 pm
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
Alberta1 Alberta1:
Damn disgrace that people are starving in this century because of financial greed.
But you just said this:
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Food, like every other commodity is priced by the markets.


Financial greed is manipulating the markets.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:26 am
 


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Part of the problem is the IMF/WTO dictating to the Third World that Food Markets need to be Open to Foreign Competition. Food Markets are the one Market that every Nation should be allowed to Protect from Foreign Competition. This is especially true for the Third World where Agriculture is still a major part of Domestic Economies.


I agree 100%. We heavily subsidize our own farmers, so does the USA, most of the EU, even against other EU members. African and Asian countries aren't allowed that luxury by the IMF/WTO without being sanctioned.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:20 pm
 


CommanderSock CommanderSock:
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Part of the problem is the IMF/WTO dictating to the Third World that Food Markets need to be Open to Foreign Competition. Food Markets are the one Market that every Nation should be allowed to Protect from Foreign Competition. This is especially true for the Third World where Agriculture is still a major part of Domestic Economies.


I agree 100%. We heavily subsidize our own farmers, so does the USA, most of the EU, even against other EU members. African and Asian countries aren't allowed that luxury by the IMF/WTO without being sanctioned.


Rich countries – mostly France - are subsidizing their exports of their food production surplus for political reasons. Their dumping is destroying the local food markets in poor countries. Poor countries cannot do the same because there governments are too poor, disorganized and corrupt. If poor countries closed their food markets to all foreign productions, there would be starvation at the next bad harvest.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:52 pm
 


Benoit Benoit:
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
$1:
Part of the problem is the IMF/WTO dictating to the Third World that Food Markets need to be Open to Foreign Competition. Food Markets are the one Market that every Nation should be allowed to Protect from Foreign Competition. This is especially true for the Third World where Agriculture is still a major part of Domestic Economies.


I agree 100%. We heavily subsidize our own farmers, so does the USA, most of the EU, even against other EU members. African and Asian countries aren't allowed that luxury by the IMF/WTO without being sanctioned.


Rich countries – mostly France - are subsidizing their exports of their food production surplus for political reasons. Their dumping is destroying the local food markets in poor countries. Poor countries cannot do the same because there governments are too poor, disorganized and corrupt. If poor countries closed their food markets to all foreign productions, there would be starvation at the next bad harvest.


They can Open them in times like that.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:51 pm
 


sandorski sandorski:
Benoit Benoit:
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
$1:
Part of the problem is the IMF/WTO dictating to the Third World that Food Markets need to be Open to Foreign Competition. Food Markets are the one Market that every Nation should be allowed to Protect from Foreign Competition. This is especially true for the Third World where Agriculture is still a major part of Domestic Economies.


I agree 100%. We heavily subsidize our own farmers, so does the USA, most of the EU, even against other EU members. African and Asian countries aren't allowed that luxury by the IMF/WTO without being sanctioned.


Rich countries – mostly France - are subsidizing their exports of their food production surplus for political reasons. Their dumping is destroying the local food markets in poor countries. Poor countries cannot do the same because there governments are too poor, disorganized and corrupt. If poor countries closed their food markets to all foreign productions, there would be starvation at the next bad harvest.


They can Open them in times like that.


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