[Robair]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Have you no respect for the law?

Yea, better to talk like that when talking to other city slikers, city sliker.

14 in rural Saskatchewan is actually kind of a late bloomer.

If you don't count quads or snowmobiles, I learned to drive in a 3 ton grain truck. Not sure how old I was but I couldn't see over the dash and depress the clutch at the same time. I only drove when we were harvesting the home place, I couldn't make very good time stuck in first gear.

Drive it out to the feild, somebody would fill it up, drive it into the yard, somebody else would empty it... ...we probably break child labour laws in SK on a regular basis too...

[Blue_Nose]

Wullu Wullu:

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

Wullu Wullu:

The HORROR!!!!!

Nobody is making this out to be a huge deal, but there's no reason to roll your eyes at the notion that the Premier is expected to represent the values of the government when speaking publicly as a government head.

I will whenever the fucking mood strikes me.

Knock yourself out - apparently I was mistaken in expecting more from you in a conversation than snide remarks.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Wall took his kid out on a rural dirt road to drive. Were a farmer to do the same thing in the same place no one would care.

I couldn't care less if he was doing doughnuts in a cornfield with his child - its the fact that the RCMP in his province are expected to maintain a law - however trivial anyone feels it is - while he personally brushes off that law while speaking officially as the head of government.

[BartSimpson]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Nothing wrong with that at all.

Speak for yourself. The SK government says:

$1:

We don't condone underage driving in our province

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The rural area where I live it's common to see kids driving combines and etc. on the roads all the time.

Drivers licenses aren't typically required for farm machinery travelling between fields. I doubt Wall took his daughter out on a combine.

The realities of rural life and the idiocies of urban laws are frequently in conflict. Nothing new there.

Example: You'd gasp if kids brought a gun to school in your neighborhood.

In parts of Alaska people would gasp if they didn't.

Wall took his kid out on a rural dirt road to drive. Were a farmer to do the same thing in the same place no one would care.

Have you no respect for the law?

St. Augustine St. Augustine:

An unjust law is no law at all.

In this case we're speaking to a law that was meant for urban areas and that are at a disconnect from the realities of life in rural areas.

As to my blanket respect for laws in general, no, I do not blindly obey laws just because a majority of lawyers elected to public office have passed them.

[hurley_108]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Nothing wrong with that at all.

Speak for yourself. The SK government says:

$1:

We don't condone underage driving in our province

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The rural area where I live it's common to see kids driving combines and etc. on the roads all the time.

Drivers licenses aren't typically required for farm machinery travelling between fields. I doubt Wall took his daughter out on a combine.

The realities of rural life and the idiocies of urban laws are frequently in conflict. Nothing new there.

Example: You'd gasp if kids brought a gun to school in your neighborhood.

In parts of Alaska people would gasp if they didn't.

Wall took his kid out on a rural dirt road to drive. Were a farmer to do the same thing in the same place no one would care.

Have you no respect for the law?

St. Augustine St. Augustine:

An unjust law is no law at all.

In this case we're speaking to a law that was meant for urban areas and that are at a disconnect from the realities of life in rural areas.

As to my blanket respect for laws in general, no, I do not blindly obey laws just because a majority of lawyers elected to public office have passed them.

Unjust law? Give me a fucking BREAK! If they were suffering some sort of hardship as a result of the law, like he and all the other grownups are busy and they need that tractor to be in that field instead of this one and there's a stretch of public road in the way, and that's illegal, then yea, it's unjust. But if this guy just wanted to let his daughter start to learn to drive a passenger car a little earlier than usual, then he can do it on his private property in his driveway (In the country I presume he has a pretty long one), or suck it up and wait until she's old enough and gets a learner's or however it works in Sask. Living in the country does not give you immunity to the laws of city folk. If you want an exemption, then write one into the law.

Unjust law. That's rich.

[hurley_108]

Robair Robair:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Have you no respect for the law?

Yea, better to talk like that when talking to other city slikers, city sliker.

14 in rural Saskatchewan is actually kind of a late bloomer.

If you don't count quads or snowmobiles, I learned to drive in a 3 ton grain truck. Not sure how old I was but I couldn't see over the dash and depress the clutch at the same time. I only drove when we were harvesting the home place, I couldn't make very good time stuck in first gear.

Drive it out to the feild, somebody would fill it up, drive it into the yard, somebody else would empty it... ...we probably break child labour laws in SK on a regular basis too...

Did you ever drive it out onto a public road? A kid driving a farm vehicle on private property is not illegal in Alberta. Also in Alberta, farms are exempt from most child labour laws.

Such exemptions are reasonable. What Wall did was not.

[grainfedprairieboy]

The first vehicle I drove was an old 65 Pontiac at age 11 and the only thing in a 640 acre field was a swather and I hit it at about 40km.

On the prairie - driving vehicles underage is not only a right of passage but often a necessity for a farm family. On my property there of course are no limitations and our kids drive, we can drink and party and race etc. But I do not believe that any unlicensed driver should be able to operate any vehicle on any motor way under any circumstance expect to cross the road with it.

[Robair]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Robair Robair:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Have you no respect for the law?

Yea, better to talk like that when talking to other city slikers, city sliker.

14 in rural Saskatchewan is actually kind of a late bloomer.

If you don't count quads or snowmobiles, I learned to drive in a 3 ton grain truck. Not sure how old I was but I couldn't see over the dash and depress the clutch at the same time. I only drove when we were harvesting the home place, I couldn't make very good time stuck in first gear.

Drive it out to the feild, somebody would fill it up, drive it into the yard, somebody else would empty it... ...we probably break child labour laws in SK on a regular basis too...

Did you ever drive it out onto a public road?

Not before I could see over the dash, but before I was 14 for sure. You have to in order to travel from field to field.

hurley_108 hurley_108:

A kid driving a farm vehicle on private property is not illegal in Alberta. Also in Alberta, farms are exempt from most child labour laws.

Such exemptions are reasonable. What Wall did was not.

Then I guess we're just all unreasonable people outside of city limits.

Not like the city dwellers and their totally reasonable long gun registry.

[Robair]

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:

I do not believe that any unlicensed driver should be able to operate any vehicle on any motor way under any circumstance expect to cross the road with it.

I can see why!

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:

The first vehicle I drove was an old 65 Pontiac at age 11 and the only thing in a 640 acre field was a swather and I hit it at about 40km.

[mixedfarmer]

He shouldnt let her drive but not a huge deal. Just dont do it again

[Tricks]

I did this too.

[ShepherdsDog]

As a kid it was one of the things I looked forward to when visiting the family farm for holidays, getting to drive the tractors and the truck. When we moved to Manitoba, and I was older(13 - 14), the novelty wore off real quick when I was expected to help. This included driving on grid roads, sometimes dropping equipment off or picking it up(I even drove along the highway at times doing this).

[westmanguy]

Omg...I can't believe the left wingers are up in arms here.

Sheesh.

I broke the law too!

Sheesh, why don't you left wing, non-realistic, city folks get your head out of your asses:

ITS A REALITY OF RURAL LIFE

Hell, kids were driving ski-doos, dirt bikes, quads, etc. from like age 9. And I'd wager 90% of my peers have driven illegaly without a license, with their parents helping them.

I drove on a back road with my dad, before enrolling driver's ed and getting my learner's. sheesh.

Its a right of passage, and its a way to give the kid a feel for it before they start driver's ed.

Good for Wall, he was a good father FOR *spending time with his daughter and taking her driving, while he supervised*.

The Sask NDP is looking real petty, especially in a rural province like Sask, where this is quite a common thing.

[mtbr]

I'll bet the left wingers wouldn't be so pissed off if he admitted that he smoked a joint once in his life. Also illegal

[westmanguy]

Oh but mtbr, pot smoking and prostitution is a reasonable law to be broken to urban lefties, but like hell rural Canadians can hunt with long guns or taking their kids for some supervised under-age driving on rural roads.