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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:24 pm
 


Things happen. Unfortunately for the captain, he will never have the opportunity to redeem himself and will probably leave the service and get a merchant ticket to drive container ships around Asia.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:34 pm
 


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Strange as it sounds these incidents happen alot more often than people think. I've been involved in a couple of collisions at sea and seen a few others, which fortunately happened prior to youtube so the whole world wasn't privy to our misadventures.

Not having read the proceedings of the investigation I guess nobody can actually say what caused this mishap. From the video it appears that they were doing Officer of the Watch Manoevers in station keeping and somebody screwed up the signal, since the other vessel didn't appear to make any attempt to manoever out of harms way. Likely the first ship was supposed to pass astern of the second vessel also and take up station on the outer cordon.


Possible, although it seems like it's more likely the second ship was suppose to move up. Either which way the first ship should have either: a) waited to ensure the other vessel was moving to their station before attempting to take up their; b) watched to ensure the other vessel was drawing right; c) when they realized they weren't they should of came hard left, not right.



True enough, but having watched numerous junior officers on the bridge for these manoevers it's easy to see how a major screw up can occur. Either way the Captains of both vessels are ultimately responsible for the safety of their ships, which from the video appears to have been more of a statement than a fact.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:57 pm
 


I just played that clip for a visitor....

His comment----"that's like Lake Erie in July."

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$1:
When it was approaching the Clyde the Queen Mary required an anti-aircraft escort, amongst these was the cruiser HMS Curacoa. On 2 October the escort ships were sighted. The Queen Mary was steaming at 28 knots in zig-zag pattern whilst the Curacoa, whose best speed was 26 knots, kept as close as possible. The Queen Mary overtook its escort and then the zig-zag pattern of the two ships converged and it collided with the Curacoa close to its stern and sliced straight through the ship. Out of 430 crew members on the cruiser only 101 survived. Although there was damage beneath the waterline the Queen Mary was able to continue. With over 11,000 troops on board the Queen Mary could not stop to assist and it sailed straight to the Clyde. A long legal battle between the Admiralty and Cunard eventually laid the blame equally on both vessels.

Just a few WW1 collision losses....
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26 January 1916
TB13, British, Torpedo Boat
Collision in the North Sea.

25 Mar 1916
Medusa, British, M class Destroyer
Collided with British destroyer Laverock off the Danish coast whilst under attack by German aircraft. She had been screening the seaplane carrier Vindictive on a raid.

26 March 1916
G194, German, G192 class Destroyer
Rammed by the British light cruiser Cleopatra with the loss of 93 dead whilst the British ship was covering a raid of Tondern.


Fantassin, French, Chasseur class Destroyer
Collision with French destroyer Mameluk whilst hunting a submarine in the Mediterranean.

18 June 1916
Eden, British, River class Destroyer
Collision with SS France in the English Channel.

28 June 1916
Serpente, Italain, Sirio class Torpedo Boat
Collision with Citta di Bari in the Adriatic.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:16 pm
 


Better this than invading Poland I suppose


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