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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:06 pm
 


Russia, Russia, Russia....oh wait.....Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine


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all true, all true, all true...oh, wait...all true, all true, all true :lol:


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Once again telling us what we already know



Quick, look over here! Distraction! Distraction! Here’s something Completely irrelevant to the topic !


Translated your post for you.




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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Bill Barr was on MSNBC earlier and this analysis/commentary includes a transcript of an MSNBC interview.

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Ok, if you’re still sitting around worrying that Attorney General William Barr has gone all wobbly – even after yesterday’s pointed statements by he and U.S. Attorney John Durham in response to the IG Report – then I think I may have found your cure. Earlier today, MSNBC aired an interview involving one of their hack reporters and Attorney General Barr, and boy, is it epic. Mr. Barr is making no bones about his continued consistent views on what he bluntly still refers to as the “spying” on the Trump Campaign by the Obama FBI, and is not backing off even a little bit from his assessment of the contents of the IG Report.

Below is a clip of the first 3:17 of the interview, followed by a transcript. Watch and/or read, and if you don’t feel better after doing that, then I’m afraid there is nothing more I can do to help you.

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Now, the Transcript, lovingly and laboriously prepared by we here at the Campaign Update for our audience made up mostly of voracious readers:

MSNBC Hack: Why do you say the FBI opened the investigation on the Trump Campaign on the “thinnest of suspicions?”

Barr: Well, I’m glad to get into the issue of predication, but let me just start out by saying that I think you have to put this in context. I think the heart of the IG’s report really focused on how the investigation was conducted once it got going, and that is especially the very serious abuses of FISA that occurred, much of which has in my view not been accurately reported by the press over the last day.

But, in one area I do disagree with the IG, and that was whether there was sufficient predication to open a full-blown counterintelligence investigation, specifically using the techniques that they did to collect intelligence about the Trump Campaign.

MSNBC Hack: W, w, well as a policy matter, why not open an investigation on a thin pretext? [Seriously???] I guess on the one hand you could say that it’s a presidential campaign, it’s very sensitive, you need better evidence. On the other hand, you could say, it’s a presidential campaign, we have to be very careful, it’s a threat to our political process.

Barr: I think probably from a civil liberties standpoint [Which liberals USED to be concerned about – remember?] the greatest danger to our free system is that the incumbent government use the apparatus of the state – principally the law enforcement agencies and the intelligence agencies – both to spy [!] on political opponents, but also to use them in a way that could affect the outcome of the election.

As far as I’m aware, this is the first time in our history that this has been done to a presidential campaign. The use of these counterintelligence techniques against a presidential campaign. And we have to remember, in today’s world, presidential campaigns are frequently in contact with foreign persons, and indeed, in most campaigns there are signs of illegal foreign money coming in [!!!].

And we don’t automatically assume that the campaigns are nefarious and traitors and acting in league with foreign powers. There has to be some basis before we use these very potent powers in our core first amendment activity. And here, I felt this was very flimsy.

Basically, I think the Department has a “rule of reason” which is, at the end of the day, what you’re relying on – sufficiently powerful to justify the techniques you’re using. And the question there is, how strong is the evidence? How sensitive is the activity you’re looking at? And what are the alternatives?

I think when you step back here and say, what was this all based on?, it’s not sufficient.

Remember, there was and never has been any evidence of “collusion.” And yet, this campaign, and the President’s Administration has been dominated by this investigation into what turns out to be completely baseless.


[End]

Things to note in this:

Barr’s intentional and pointed use of the word “spy” to describe what the Coup Cabal did to the Trump Campaign. He knows this will cause Democrats and the media to fry their own brains. Epic.

Barr’s unqualified statement that “there was and never has been ANY evidence of ‘collusion.'” That tells you that he – and presumably also Durham – simply do not accept that there was ANY premise at all for operation “Crossfire Hurricane” to begin in the first place, nor was there ANY reason for the appointment of a special counsel, much less a two-year-long investigation by Mueller. That is bad, bad news for not just Comey, Strzok, Page and McCabe, but also for Mueller and Rosenstein, who made the decision to appoint Mueller based on…nothing.

Also very interesting is this statement’s phrasing: “… the greatest danger to our free system is that the incumbent government use the apparatus of the state…”. The use of the words “incumbent government” rather than the more limited “Department of Justice,” or the even more limited “FBI” is very, very interesting, and implies that Barr and Durham are not limiting their investigation to those outside of the Obama White House, but may well be looking inside it as well. Boom, if so.

Then there’s the seemingly gratuitous noting of the fact that “…in most campaigns there are signs of illegal foreign money coming in.” Think about that one: Which two recent campaigns have been most prominent in having allegations of benefiting from foreign money? If you said “the Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton Campaigns,” you win the prize.

William Barr is a man with a well-earned history of choosing the words he uses carefully and with intent. He doesn’t just shoot his mouth off in public without giving a lot of forethought to exactly what the message is that he wants to convey.

There are a lot of very powerful messages directed at the bad actors from the Obama years in that short three-minute clip.

Those messages are also directed at those of you who still doubt Mr. Barr’s real intentions here. Are you listening?

That is all.



Considering we didn’t hear a peep from any of the righties when those 2 Ukrainian-Russian Putin assets/Giuliani clients were recently indicted for illegally contributing to the Trump campaign I assumed yo guys were fans of illegal contributions.

Or did that story not make it through the delusional bubble you live in?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:22 pm
 


So....... who fed the watchdog?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:50 pm
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:
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Quick, look over here! Distraction! Distraction! Here’s something Completely irrelevant to the topic !


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Just pointing out something you did not want to hear.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:46 pm
 


Aka trying to change the subject from something you didn’t want to hear v


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Considering we didn’t hear a peep from any of the righties when those 2 Ukrainian-Russian Putin assets/Giuliani clients were recently indicted for illegally contributing to the Trump campaign I assumed yo guys were fans of illegal contributions.


I thought so too. Who cares about Schiff, he isn't even a brown woman anyhow?


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:58 pm
 


Ted Cruz is having a party with the FISA warrants.



Of note is the comment that if a private citizen had done the same things the FBI did here Horowitz acknowledges that the citizen would be referred to the DOJ for prosecution.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:20 pm
 


Fox News Is Now a Threat to National Security


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:38 pm
 


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Holy shit!
Are they starting to tell the truth now???


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:41 pm
 


CharlesAnthony CharlesAnthony:
herbie herbie:
Holy shit!
Are they starting to tell the truth now???


You beat me to it!!! [B-o]


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:24 pm
 


One of the tidbits popping up today in the analysis of the IG report is that Donald Trump's campaign wasn't the only Republican campaign that the Obama Administration was spying on. They were also spying on Ben Carson's campaign and that was established by the dates of the FISA warrants for George Papadopolous...the first warrants against him were dated to when he worked for Ben Carson.

Hate to say but this is starting to sound worse than Watergate.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Of note is the comment that if a private citizen had done the same things the FBI did here Horowitz acknowledges that the citizen would be referred to the DOJ for prosecution.


Well fuckin duh. If a private citizen tried to act like law enforcement theyd be prosecuted because they don’t have law enforcement powers. You really needed Ted Cruz to tell you that? Please remember not to go around handcuffing and imprisoning people bart, you’re not a cop.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:00 pm
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Please remember not to go around handcuffing and imprisoning people bart, you’re not a cop.


I'll do my best to concentrate on killing them. :wink:


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