[llama66]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

martin14 martin14:

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/torontos-homicide-rate-now-matches-new-york/

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University of Toronto Associate Professor of Criminology Scot Wortley, an expert in crime statistics, says that, based on an estimated population of 2.93 million, Toronto has a current crime rate of 1.67 per 100,000 people.

New York City, which has an estimated population of 8.62 million, had seen 130 homicides at the same point, according to the NYPD’s CompStat crime data portal.

Wortley says this would put New York’s homicide rate at 1.51 per 100,000 people.

I think the Associate Professor needs to check his math because I've been assured by a local CKA internet expert that if America were to just use the magic gun laws of Canada gun crime in America would instantly vanish.

Only if you say abracadabra.

It was bound to happen, 1.67 murders per 100k is still really low. Shall we compare Toronto's murder rate to Detroit or Chicago?

[N_Fiddledog]

llama66 llama66:

It was bound to happen, 1.67 murders per 100k is still really low. Shall we compare Toronto's murder rate to Detroit or Chicago?

Sure if you'd like to explain to me what's in Canadian gun law that might change the gun homicide rate in Chicago. Seeing as Chicago's gun laws are already pretty similar to Canada's, I mean.

Or if you like, I can add St. Louis and Baltimore to your list and tell you what's different about all 4 of those gun-crime ridden cities.

[llama66]

They won't I still don't think there is a problem. There is a few points with Gun Control that irk me, but Gun control only applies to honest citizens

[N_Fiddledog]

What you're saying is true in that Canadian cities still aren't as bad as some of the Democrat run voter plantations of America such as Chicago, St. Louis, Detroit and Baltimore.

However if we believe Associate professor math over CKA gun law magic experts, Toronto gun violence has already caught up with New York's. The gun violence is increasing in Toronto. Canadian gun law hasn't got more lax as far as I know.

Apparently gun and other violence in London is also beginning to sky-rocket over New York's in the Saddiq Khan period.

New York is interesting because the state of violent crime was as bad as anywhere there too at one time. Then it changed for the better. We are assured by Progressives that this occurred as a result of some sort of magic. The fact the change occurred during the regime of Republican mayor Rudy Giuliani is, we are told, nothing more than coincidence or inadequately explained by statistical prestidigitation and angry bafflegab. Disagree and receive this - x#$% #^ - which translates from the Prog into English as "Shut up."

[llama66]

Or has New York's crime rate dropped to on par with Toronto?

[N_Fiddledog]

llama66 llama66:

Or has New York's crime rate dropped to on par with Toronto?

The way I understand it, it happened the way I explained above during and shortly following, the Giuliani period then leveled off. I'm hearing buzz like things are beginning to deteriorate again but we'll have to wait until the stats catch up to see how true that is, I think.

Actually, as a totality of America stat one hears gun violence in general has been decreasing.

[N_Fiddledog]

This just in:

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A recent series of brazen shootings in Toronto has raised questions about whether gun violence has increased significantly in the city and how much of a role street gangs are playing.

There's no doubt the number of shootings in Canada's biggest city are on the rise, but the reasons why remain hard to pin down.

177 shootings in 2014.
288 in 2015.
407 in 2016.
395 in 2017.

So far this year, there have been more than 200 shootings in the city; 24 of those have resulted in death. (In comparison, there were 24 gun-related deaths in all of 2016, and 16 in 2017).

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/s ... -1.4732393

And I'm just going to leave this one here for myself for future reference.

Mayor and council helped create the gun crisis

[Thanos]

Probably less to do with more immigrants arriving in Toronto and way more to do with the cops being more and more handcuffed from doing their job by a hard-leftist city council. That stunt BLM pulled at the Pride thing two years ago, followed by the city not doing anything about it when BLM got their way and had the police banned from the events, showed pretty clearly that there's a war against the Toronto cops being conducted by the city government. If they backstab the police over something as ridiculous as some BLM demands then they're certainly not going to hesitate in forcing the law to back off on certain well-know, ahem, communities that are responsible for most of the crime. Hence the current field day the gangsters in TO are now having.