First off, You’re trying to pretend this is “she said, he said” but it’s not. I didn’t give you a link to someone’s rebuttal or opinion as you claim. You either didn’t really read my post or you’re being dishonest. I gave you a link to the actual list that she falsely claims to be on. She’s not on the list. Case closed.
Andat the same time, now your backpedaling begins.
First she (and you) claimed she was “targeted” and on their “hate list”. And “labelled an LGBT hater”.
We can see with our own eyes that none of that is true because we can read who is on SPLC’s hate list (hint: not her) and we can read what “labels” she was “targeted” with (hint: nothing)
Now you’re trying to backpedal and say she’s on a list of people “working with” hate groups. Because you know you’ve been duped by overstated claims yet again.
SPLC publishes a weekly list of everyone who appears on that show. She went on that show, so she’s on the list. And that’s all.
N_Fiddledog
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BTW Ayaan Hirsi Ali is also having a categorization problem with the Southern Poverty Law Center.
If you don't challenge these SPLC tricksters and snuff their nonsense in the cradle, the next thing you know you'll reference say A H Ali and Beave will be boasting he "Debunked" you by telling you she's on a SPLC hate list.
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And what I claim Hannah claimed is this:
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“When I called to inquire, SPLC informed me that I am guilty because I did a radio interview with Family Research Council Radio. … The segment was about socialism, but because FRC holds traditional family values, I was labeled an LGBT-hater just for being a guest on the show. No LGBT topics even came-up.”
On August 2nd, Hannah's name was published on a list by the Southern Poverty Law Center as working with an "Anti-LGBT organization," FRC Radio Roundup.[15] This motivated Hannah to write an op-ed for Fox News condemning the SPLC's tactics as a way to silence conservative voices.[8] She calls on the SPLC to remove the list and to stop engaging in "fearful identity politics."
I reiterate, neither of those claims have been "Debunked" by your little band of alt-losers or anybody else.
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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
And what I claim Hannah claimed is this:
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“When I called to inquire, SPLC informed me that I am guilty because I did a radio interview with Family Research Council Radio. … The segment was about socialism, but because FRC holds traditional family values, I was labeled an LGBT-hater just for being a guest on the show. No LGBT topics even came-up.”
On August 2nd, Hannah's name was published on a list by the Southern Poverty Law Center as working with an "Anti-LGBT organization," FRC Radio Roundup.[15] This motivated Hannah to write an op-ed for Fox News condemning the SPLC's tactics as a way to silence conservative voices.[8] She calls on the SPLC to remove the list and to stop engaging in "fearful identity politics."
I reiterate, neither of those claims have been "Debunked" by your little band of alt-losers or anybody else.
And your little band of alt-right-losers are credible? How many times have you and those on the right slammed sources of information and yet you credit the Daily Signal as some sort of credible source on the issue?
Using a shitty source to discredit another shitty source is disingenuous.
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Again they miss the point.
Are we going for the record on how many times you're going to make me repeat something before you hear it?
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
But when you say:
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some random YouTube crackpot
you miss the point, Beave. "some random YouTube crackpot" is what right wing watch is. Actually it's a few of them. Which group of crackpots is actually valid then? Who knows? In fact, who cares?
The fact remains no actual "Debunking" has happened here. So Hannah said what Hannah said and the others said what they said. Take it or leave it. Your choice, but you have no superior validity. Stop being comical and claiming you do.
BTW Coach, you'll never beat the making me repeat myself record. As I told you before there was this old member named Andy and he sewed that one up years ago. May as well give up.
(Also, I believe what Daily Signal did was quote Fox.)
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And here's Hannah addressing what Beave calls her "debunking" among other things.
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Sometimes I think Beave is just pissed, because all the babes are on the right.
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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
And what I claim Hannah claimed is this:
$1:
“When I called to inquire, SPLC informed me that I am guilty because I did a radio interview with Family Research Council Radio. … The segment was about socialism, but because FRC holds traditional family values, I was labeled an LGBT-hater just for being a guest on the show. No LGBT topics even came-up.”
On August 2nd, Hannah's name was published on a list by the Southern Poverty Law Center as working with an "Anti-LGBT organization," FRC Radio Roundup.[15] This motivated Hannah to write an op-ed for Fox News condemning the SPLC's tactics as a way to silence conservative voices.[8] She calls on the SPLC to remove the list and to stop engaging in "fearful identity politics."
I reiterate, neither of those claims have been "Debunked" by your little band of alt-losers or anybody else.
Her claim is debunked because we can see with our own eyes what “list” SPLC has her on and nowhere on that “list” is she “labeled “ as anything. How do you fail to comprehend that?
You keep repeating her original claim as it is self-proving evidence. If someone tells you their name is on a list, then you check the list yourself and see the name isn’t actually there, what conclusion can you draw, Einstein? Repeating a false claim doesn’t make it true.
Is there maybe a different secret list that only she can see?
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BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Her claim is debunked because we can see with our own eyes what “list” SPLC has her on and nowhere on that “list” is she “labeled “ as anything. How do you fail to comprehend that?
You keep repeating her original claim as it is self-proving evidence. If someone tells you their name is on a list, then you check the list yourself and see the name isn’t actually there, what conclusion can you draw, Einstein? Repeating a false claim doesn’t make it true.
Is there maybe a different secret list that only she can see?
It's guilt by association.
Frankly, given the propensity of accusations against me for being a racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobe then the fact that you converse with me would be grounds for the SPLC to list you in connection with racism, sexism, homophobia, and anti-Islamic hate speech.
I take it you'd be okay with that?
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Did she want her appearance on that show to be a secret? She wanted to be a guest on their radio show and not have anyone know about it? Is the rest of the world obligated to not talk about it?
She’s the one who chose to associate herself with that group, is she now ashamed of that or something?
You there are dozens if not hundreds of names of people who’ve been on that show including Republican politicians. This is the only triggered snowflake crying about it.
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Hey if you don't see a problem with this kind of thing then don't be surprised if it gets used against you next. That's how this kind of shit generally works out.
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I promise not to go on any radio shows that I don’t want the general public to know about.
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But as she said in the video interview posted above, that's the trick. That's what it's about.
Scaring people from daring to speak out.
(This one's old, but still relevant, if you ask me.)
Didn't work with Hannah so now you want to pretend she was "Debunked" hoping that will shut up the rest of us. How's that working out for you so far, Beave?
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:26 pm
Her claims are false. We can see SPLC’s “hate list” for ourselves and see that shes not on it.
The end.
DEBUNKED
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BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Sorry guys wrong link! Must have clicked on an ad.
Anyway, it’s debunked here:
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....Scherlacher’s claims are entirely untrue, as she has not been been placed on the SPLC’s list of anti-LGBT hate groups but was merely once mentioned in passing in one of its “Anti-LGBT Roundup of Events and Activities” posts.
The SPLC has designated the Family Research Council as an anti-LGBT hate group and as part of its coverage of FRC’s work, the SPLC simply noted who had appeared on FRC’s radio program in previous weeks (emphasis added):
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FRC Radio Roundup:
FRC president Tony Perkins hosts a daily radio show, “Washington Watch.” Guests July 13 through July 31 included Rep. Tim Walberg (R-MI); Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY); Faith Church of Budapest’s Michael Patkai; Katalin Novak (Minister of State for Family, Youth and International Affairs, Hungary); Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX); Terry Jeffrey (editor, CNS News); Jerry Johnson (president, National Religious Broadcasters) guest hosted July 18; Ralph Reed; Jack Graham (pastor of Prestonwood Baptist Church in Plano, Texas, one of the evangelicals who prayed over President Trump in the Oval Office the week before); Sen. Luther Strange (R-AL); Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH; twice); Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA); Ken Blackwell; Lt. Gov. of Texas Dan Patrick; Rep. Brian Babin (R-TX); Jonathan Saenz (president, anti-LGBT group Texas Values); Ron Crews (director of Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty); Frank Wright (CEO, D. James Kennedy Ministries); Rep. Andy Harris (R-MD; twice); Carrie Severino (general counsel and policy director, Judicial Crisis Network); Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO); Hannah Sherlacher, Campus Reform program coordinator;Rep. Steve Russell (R-OK); Adm. Dean Lee; Rep. Jim Banks (R-IN); Kansas governor Sam Brownback; Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ); Eben Fowler (director of Bott Radio Network); former congresswoman Nan Hayworth (R-NY); MO state senator Bob Onder; Virginia state delegate Bob Marshall; Rep. Doug Collins (R-GA); guest host Ronnie Floyd (pastor, Cross Church, Springdale AR); Rep. Steve Womack (R-AZ); Kevin Theriot (senior counsel, Alliance Defending Freedom*); Richard Land (president of Southern Evangelical Seminary).
What’s more, at the very top of the post, the SPLC noted that the people, like Scherlacher, who were mentioned in the post but not designated with an asterisk were not themselves on their list of anti-LGBT hate groups.
That one listing is the only mention of Scherlacher on the SPLC’s website, rendering her complaint that she was unjustifiably placed on “the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) LGBTQ hate-list” and “labeled an LGBT-hater” laughably untrue.