[2Cdo]

Unsound Unsound:

It's not about "bubble wrapping" kids, it's about knowing the difference between reasonable risks and stupidity. Speeding down the highway with a young kids sitting in a fucking cardboard box rather than properly buckled in is stupid and negligent.

If you think that teaching my kids about and reasonable safety rules and, y'know obeying the fucking law is going to turn them in sheep... well I guess we have very different ideas of parenting. I sure hope you're not in here some day telling us that your kid flew through the windshield and died after a relatively minor accident that would've left them with minor bruises if they'd been buckled up.

I don't think that will happen as my boys are 27 and 25 years old. Somehow I managed to raise them to adulthood without killing them.

[martin14]

Unsound Unsound:

I sure hope you're not in here some day telling us that your kid flew through the windshield and died after a relatively minor accident that would've left them with minor bruises if they'd been buckled up.

Statisically, you might be right. However.....

[Hyack]

Unsound Unsound:

When I was ten I rode my bike really fast across a major road without stopping to look for cars. I didn't die. Therefore it's perfectly safe to do what i did and people who tell their kids to stop and look for cars are safety Nazis.

I tried that at one time when I was 7 or 8, I regained consciousness at my grandparent's house looking up at a Winnipeg cop, our family doctor and my grandmother. It turns out I T-boned a Morris Minor (I think) square into the drivers door, it turned out the driver was a teacher at my school! I don't know if I learned anything that day but, I never tried that again!!!

[Hyack]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

I'm so old that I remember cars without seatbelts.

Remember no seatbelts??? Hell, the first car I owned didn't have seatbelts. How old does that make me.....

[bootlegga]

Unsound Unsound:

It's not about "bubble wrapping" kids, it's about knowing the difference between reasonable risks and stupidity. Speeding down the highway with a young kids sitting in a fucking cardboard box rather than properly buckled in is stupid and negligent.

If you think that teaching my kids about and reasonable safety rules and, y'know obeying the fucking law is going to turn them in sheep... well I guess we have very different ideas of parenting. I sure hope you're not in here some day telling us that your kid flew through the windshield and died after a relatively minor accident that would've left them with minor bruises if they'd been buckled up.

+5

I fully agree that wearing a seatbelt isn't bubble wrapping - it should be common sense for a couple hundred thousand people in Alberta, but it's beyond their tiny pea-sized brains.

If adults want to be stupid and win the Darwin award because they are too lazy or dumb to put on their seatbelt, that's fine, but anyone who doesn't make sure their kid is safely secured deserves to have the government take custody of their child.

[Jabberwalker]

Hyack Hyack:

Unsound Unsound:

When I was ten I rode my bike really fast across a major road without stopping to look for cars. I didn't die. Therefore it's perfectly safe to do what i did and people who tell their kids to stop and look for cars are safety Nazis.

I tried that at one time when I was 7 or 8, I regained consciousness at my grandparent's house looking up at a Winnipeg cop, our family doctor and my grandmother. It turns out I T-boned a Morris Minor (I think) square into the drivers door, it turned out the driver was a teacher at my school! I don't know if I learned anything that day but, I never tried that again!!!

Knowing how well built those old British cars were, you probably totalled the Minor.

I don't think that anyone should drive around without a seatbelt. I just don't think that it's child abuse if it occasionally happens under some unusual circumstances.Just don't make it a way of life. Go capture a real criminal, Copper.

[2Cdo]

bootlegga bootlegga:

If adults want to be stupid and win the Darwin award because they are too lazy or dumb to put on their seatbelt, that's fine, but anyone who doesn't make sure their kid is safely secured deserves to have the government take custody of their child.

Yay nanny state!

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Just for fun: 8 Reasons why the children of the '70s should all be dead

http://read.feedly.com/html?url=http%3A ... ize=medium
#2 is specific to the topic at hand

$1:

Cars came with seat belts in the 1970s, but no one used them except maybe out of curiosity to see what it was like to wear one. Of course, you’d have to fish them out of the deep crevice of the backseat cushion where they often came to rest, unwanted and ignored.

The only “click” heard in the 1970s automobile was your dad’s Ronson lighting up a smoke with the windows rolled up. (cough!)

I should also mention that, not only were there no seat belts, child seats were nowhere to be found. Whether it was the front seat of your mom’s station wagon or her bicycle, chances are, you were entirely untethered.

[DrCaleb]

martin14 martin14:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Anybody remember sitting in the box of a pickup driving down the highway?

Much ado about nothing.

I do.

But the safety nazis are convinced people need to be protected from themselves.

I remember in my high school, a bunch of kids going to a bush party in the back of a pickup to celebrate graduation. The pickup flipped over on one of the back roads, and 6 of my fellow students were killed. Two of them were brothers. It wasn't the first, nor the last such incident either.

There are laws nowadays, pickups can't exceed very low speeds with people in the back. There are also rules about putting kids in carseats, and kids don't get to decide when that applies to them. I find it strange that you guys would be so upset at child rapists in the UK, but so nonchalant about people putting kids in jeopardy in a car. Child safety is child safety, is it not?

Safety Nazis indeed.

[Zipperfish]

Unsound Unsound:

Much ado about nothing? So you'd let your kids sit in a cardboard box in the back seat on the highway, rather than in a seat with proper restraints?

Well, I do make my 10 year old wear her seat belt when she's driving though.

I'm with 2CDO. Big fuss about nothing.

[Alta_redneck]

How many of you remember going somewhere and you actually stood on the front seat cause you couldn't see where you were going if you sat down?

And your rolling along and all of a sudden a dog, cat or even another kid came running out into the street and your dad had to swing out his right arm and grab you before you went through the windshield as he hit the brakes.

[herbie]

When we got to rowdy in the station wagon, Dad would pump the gas pedal so we all bounced around and exclaim he had 'lumpy gas' from the Scotsman station...

[andyt]

ah, the good old days. Why have child safety laws at all? Parents know what's best for their kids, and if that includes going thru the windshield, it will just toughen them up. Same with outlawing flammable pajamas - just tell your kid not to smoke in bed and your job is done.

[Tyler_1]

I remember all you Peeps "do you remember" stuff.

We got to have so much more fun, I feel kind of sad for the kids now with all the rules and being kept track of 24/7. Too grown up.

[bootlegga]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

bootlegga bootlegga:

If adults want to be stupid and win the Darwin award because they are too lazy or dumb to put on their seatbelt, that's fine, but anyone who doesn't make sure their kid is safely secured deserves to have the government take custody of their child.

Yay nanny state!

Regular seatbelts don't properly secure a child and in a crash a child is more likely to be injured or killed if not properly secured. If a parent doesn't care enough to protect their own kids, then they aren't fit to have them.