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andyt
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:58 pm
Nothing to do with God. It's where people believe that women enjoying sex are sluts, and a way for men to control women so they won't mess around on them while the men go out and play. It's mostly done and enforced by women who figure if it's good enough for them it's good enough for other women. It actually confers status to the cut woman, as being of decent character.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:58 pm
andyt andyt: PostFactum PostFactum: andyt andyt: Muslims, huh? In most cases, African tribes do it, muslims much rare. Nope, it's most common among African Muslims, but Egyptian Copts and Ethiopian Jews also do it, as well as animist tribes. I think you living in North America have the same sense on muslims as I living in Ukraine have it on Russians. Not all shit in the world made by muslims 
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:59 pm
The practice predates Islam. Martie?, is there anything in the Koran about it? I don't know!
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:01 pm
fifeboy fifeboy: The practice predates Islam. Martie?, is there anything in the Koran about it? I don't know! He is not online, on word "muslims" he starts type war so be carefull.
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andyt
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:02 pm
PostFactum PostFactum: andyt andyt: PostFactum PostFactum: In most cases, African tribes do it, muslims much rare. Nope, it's most common among African Muslims, but Egyptian Copts and Ethiopian Jews also do it, as well as animist tribes. I think you living in North America have the same sense on muslims as I living in Ukraine have it on Russians. Not all shit in the world made by muslims  Go fuck yourself. It's your buddy Martin and Fiddle Dick that try to say that all Muslims are evil. Maybe read what I posted again. Again: $1: There is no mention of FGM in the Bible or Quran.[102] Although its origins are pre-Islamic, it became associated with Islam because of that religion's focus on female modesty and chastity, and is found only within or near Muslim communities.[103] It is praised in several hadith (sayings attributed to Muhammad) as noble but not required, along with advice that the milder forms are kinder to women.[104] In 2006 several leading Islamic scholars called for an end to the practice, and in 2007 the Al-Azhar Supreme Council of Islamic Research in Cairo ruled that it has no basis in Islamic law.[105] According to Mackie, it is not practised in Mecca and Medina in Saudi Arabia, Islam's holiest cities, although there have been reports of it in that country, perhaps among immigrant communities.[106] Surveys have shown that there is a widespread belief in several countries, particularly Eritrea, Egypt, Guinea, Mali and Mauritania, that FGM is a religious requirement.[107] Mackie and LeJeune write that practitioners may not distinguish between religion, tradition and chastity, which makes it difficult to interpret the data.[108]
Outside Islam, FGM has been practised by the Christian Copts in Egypt and Sudan, and by the Beta Israel of Ethiopia, the only Jewish group known to have practised it. Judaism requires male circumcision, but does not allow FGM.[109] FGM is an African thing, most of the Africans who practice it are Muslim, but not exclusively.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:07 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:08 pm
I think you living in North America have the same sense on muslims as I living in Ukraine have it on Russians. Not all shit in the world made by muslims  It is an historic fact that Muslims, specifically, have brought war to this (N/A) continent in the 21st century.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:10 pm
Jabberwalker Jabberwalker: It is an historic fact that Muslims, specifically, have brought war to this (N/A) continent in the 21st century.
Not sure 
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:12 pm
fifeboy fifeboy: The practice predates Islam. Martie?, is there anything in the Koran about it? I don't know! What you don't know could fill a library. Predates, but nothing changed since Islam arrived in sub saharan Africa. So they either endorse it, or don't give shit about it. So, since the UK can confirm 3 - 4000 new cases a year, and the US can write an article about it, you can be sure it is happening in Canada. I'll type that again, slowly, so the PhDs, high school dropouts, farmers, and idiots who constantly whine about anything anti muslim will understand: It is happening in Canada, right now. So stick that up your apologist asses.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:16 pm
PostFactum PostFactum: Jabberwalker Jabberwalker: It is an historic fact that Muslims, specifically, have brought war to this (N/A) continent in the 21st century.
Not sure  We export that stuff and yet there have been plots against the Canadian people. The "oil" thing explains about 20% of the problem. Our on-going, unconditional support of Israel has added up to much more ... but ... in the great horse-race of civilizations over the last 1000 years, Islam has come in fourth place and they feel that they should be running the whole show. After all, their prophet has told them so.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:19 pm
Jabberwalker Jabberwalker: PostFactum PostFactum: Jabberwalker Jabberwalker: It is an historic fact that Muslims, specifically, have brought war to this (N/A) continent in the 21st century.
Not sure  We export that stuff and yet there have been plots against the Canadian people. The "oil" thing explains about 20% of the problem. Our on-going, unconditional support of Israel has added up to much more ... but ... in the great horse-race of civilizations over the last 1000 years, Islam has come in fourth place and they feel that they should be running the whole show. After all, their prophet has told them so. Oil is never enought, you control more oil, you control more world. Middle East is not such stupid to begin war for this piece of desert.
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andyt
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:20 pm
No doubt. And as any sane article makes clear, it's incredibly difficult to prosecute because the kids aren't going to tell. Unless we do panty checks of all girls (including the aforementioned Copts, animists and Jews) there's nobody to prosecute. Also, as Britain has shown, many parents fly their girls back home to have it done there. So what, panty checks of girls returning to Canada?
Nobody is apologizing that I see. Just pointing out that it's not about Islam. But your pointy head can't absorb that info.
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andyt
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:22 pm
Jabberwalker Jabberwalker: ... but ... in the great horse-race of civilizations over the last 1000 years, Islam has come in fourth place and they feel that they should be running the whole show. After all, their prophet has told them so.
Yes. And at the same time we fucked them about pretty good, and now we're getting blowback. You talked about history, you have to include that part.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:42 pm
andyt andyt: No doubt. And as any sane article makes clear, it's incredibly difficult to prosecute because the kids aren't going to tell. Unless we do panty checks of all girls (including the aforementioned Copts, animists and Jews) there's nobody to prosecute. Also, as Britain has shown, many parents fly their girls back home to have it done there. So what, panty checks of girls returning to Canada?
Nobody is apologizing that I see. Just pointing out that it's not about Islam. But your pointy head can't absorb that info. You can't be more wrong, on all points. Islam is as culpable for not getting rid of it, if it is such the great religion of peace you constantly defend. Second, when you compare the numbers of Copts, etc, and the number of African, ME, and 'asian' muslims doing FGM, you pick stupidly small numbers to try to deflect from the main problem. Last, they are flying the cutters into the UK, and doing the girls in groups. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014 ... -common-ukHere, some nice reading for the uneducated... http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/female-gen ... ction.aspx$1: Where does FGM happen?
FGM is prevalent in Africa, the Middle East and Asia.
In the UK, FGM tends to occur in areas with larger populations of communities who practice FGM, such as first-generation immigrants, refugees and asylum seekers. These areas include London, Cardiff, Manchester, Sheffield, Northampton, Birmingham, Oxford, Crawley, Reading, Slough and Milton Keynes. Why is it done?
FGM is carried out for cultural, religious and social reasons within families and communities.
For example, it is often considered a necessary part of raising a girl properly, and as a way to prepare her for adulthood and marriage. FGM is often motivated by the belief that it is beneficial for the girl or woman. Many communities believe it will reduce a woman's libido and discourage sexual activity before marriage.
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andyt
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:53 pm
$1: There is no mention of FGM in the Bible or Quran.[102] Although its origins are pre-Islamic, it became associated with Islam because of that religion's focus on female modesty and chastity, and is found only within or near Muslim communities.[103] It is praised in several hadith (sayings attributed to Muhammad) as noble but not required, along with advice that the milder forms are kinder to women.[104] In 2006 several leading Islamic scholars called for an end to the practice, and in 2007 the Al-Azhar Supreme Council of Islamic Research in Cairo ruled that it has no basis in Islamic law.[105] According to Mackie, it is not practised in Mecca and Medina in Saudi Arabia, Islam's holiest cities, although there have been reports of it in that country, perhaps among immigrant communities.[106] Surveys have shown that there is a widespread belief in several countries, particularly Eritrea, Egypt, Guinea, Mali and Mauritania, that FGM is a religious requirement.[107] Mackie and LeJeune write that practitioners may not distinguish between religion, tradition and chastity, which makes it difficult to interpret the data.[108]
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