[Regina]

Place of birth is so archaic in thinking. No such thing as the best person for the job and people. Would open the door for so many other good people and reduce the ridicules minutia for propaganda and sour grapes.

[pineywoodslim]

Regina Regina:

Place of birth is so archaic in thinking. No such thing as the best person for the job and people. Would open the door for so many other good people and reduce the ridicules minutia for propaganda and sour grapes.

The US constitution has the qualification that the prez be a "natural born citizen" (as opposed to someone who immigrates and is naturalized) basically because of the fear in the 1780s that the UK would ship over some British ringers who would take over, and also because of the general anti-British feeling at that time.

Edit--I agree with you that citizenship however acquired should be the sole criteria.

[Regina]

pineywoodslim pineywoodslim:

Regina Regina:

Place of birth is so archaic in thinking. No such thing as the best person for the job and people. Would open the door for so many other good people and reduce the ridicules minutia for propaganda and sour grapes.

The US constitution has the qualification that the prez be a "natural born citizen" (as opposed to someone who immigrates and is naturalized) basically because of the fear in the 1780s that the UK would ship over some British ringers who would take over, and also because of the general anti-British feeling at that time.

Thanks Captain Obvious

[BartSimpson]

Regina Regina:

Place of birth is so archaic in thinking. No such thing as the best person for the job and people. Would open the door for so many other good people and reduce the ridicules minutia for propaganda and sour grapes.

We have a different perspective given that you've been conditioned to accept a Head of State who was not born on your soil.

Our perspective is that we want to think that our head of state does not have mixed loyalties that can set him/her at odds with our national interest.

[pineywoodslim]

Regina Regina:

pineywoodslim pineywoodslim:

Regina Regina:

Place of birth is so archaic in thinking. No such thing as the best person for the job and people. Would open the door for so many other good people and reduce the ridicules minutia for propaganda and sour grapes.

The US constitution has the qualification that the prez be a "natural born citizen" (as opposed to someone who immigrates and is naturalized) basically because of the fear in the 1780s that the UK would ship over some British ringers who would take over, and also because of the general anti-British feeling at that time.

Thanks Captain Obvious

You're most welcome, and thanks for your gracious response.

[peck420]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Our perspective is that we want to think that our head of state does not have mixed loyalties that can set him/her at odds with our national interest.

Your Presidents have been having loyalty issues for a while now...regardless of birth place.

They all seem to be far more loyal to their party colours/wallets then they are to the flag.

[Regina]

Not trying to drag your country into the modern world.....just pointing out the facts. If you want to hang onto another law that was written over 200 years ago for a outdated purpose that's fine with me. Won't change my life one bit. Lots of outdated thinking all over the world that we all shake our head at.

[Regina]

pineywoodslim pineywoodslim:

You're most welcome, and thanks for your gracious response.

Sorry.......couldn't resist.

[BartSimpson]

peck420 peck420:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Our perspective is that we want to think that our head of state does not have mixed loyalties that can set him/her at odds with our national interest.

Your Presidents have been having loyalty issues for a while now...regardless of birth place.

They all seem to be far more loyal to their party colours/wallets then they are to the flag.

Sorry, but I never had reason to doubt George Bush's loyalties and while I questioned the judgment of Bill Clinton I never ever thought he was a traitor.

I can't say the same about Obama who's given me two solid reasons to doubt his loyalties to the United States and to our national interests:

http://www.redstate.com/barrypopik/2011 ... eports-it/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03 ... g-missile/

[BartSimpson]

Regina Regina:

Not trying to drag your country into the modern world.....just pointing out the facts. If you want to hang onto another law that was written over 200 years ago for a outdated purpose that's fine with me. Won't change my life one bit. Lots of outdated thinking all over the world that we all shake our head at.

I suppose we should add a 'notwithstanding clause' to our Constitution to render our rights into government-sanctioned revocable privileges like what you have, eh?

[Regina]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Regina Regina:

Not trying to drag your country into the modern world.....just pointing out the facts. If you want to hang onto another law that was written over 200 years ago for a outdated purpose that's fine with me. Won't change my life one bit. Lots of outdated thinking all over the world that we all shake our head at.

I suppose we should add a 'notwithstanding clause' to our Constitution to render our rights into government-sanctioned revocable privileges like what you have, eh?

We've yet to be overthrown by fifth colonist for the last few hundred years........which is why you have it. Even mentioning amending your constitution would start another Civil War. Never going to happen even if it made sense.

[peck420]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Sorry, but I never had reason to doubt George Bush's loyalties and while I questioned the judgment of Bill Clinton I never ever thought he was a traitor.

I can't say the same about Obama who's given me two solid reasons to doubt his loyalties to the United States and to our national interests:

http://www.redstate.com/barrypopik/2011 ... eports-it/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03 ... g-missile/

I considered harming the country as traitorous.

That can be achieved through fiscal ass-hatery just as assuredly as leaking state secrets.

Luckily, as shown by our illustrious senate, our politicians are apparently too stupid to do that to us...I want to laugh, but it is just sad.

[BartSimpson]

peck420 peck420:

Luckily, as shown by our illustrious senate, our politicians are apparently too stupid to do that to us...I want to laugh, but it is just sad.

Canada's Parliament: Too incompetent to commit treason!

In an odd way I'd find that reassuring were I you!

[BartSimpson]

Regina Regina:

We've yet to be overthrown by fifth colonist for the last few hundred years.

The Quebeckers would have cause to disagree with you on that.

Regina Regina:

.......which is why you have it. Even mentioning amending your constitution would start another Civil War. Never going to happen even if it made sense.

Amending the Constitution is not a reason to have a civil war, usurping it is.

It is looking like the next Congress may well end up proposing some Amendments and that'll make for the 114th Congress as an exciting bit of historical drama.

[Regina]

That is Quebec's way of staying relevant and they aren't going anywhere.......much to the chagrin of many other provinces.

Let me know when the proposed changes come into effect.