[BartSimpson]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Locking radars was SOP for the Soviets when I was a few years younger in my RCN career. Didn't hear quite the level of bitching you hear today.

I was on board a particular ship (just along for the ride) when a Bear locked on to it. Went to GQ and cleared the decks and you could feel the power as the ship's radar zorched the Bear. No survivors from the Bear were recovered.

Boris did the same kind of thing to us, too. Lots of 'training accidents' that occured during the Cold War were anything but training accidents.

But the clear rule was that when you were in the other guy's back yard you didn't light him up unless you wanted to meet your God.

China lighting up the Japanese while transiting Japanese territorial waters is asking for a war. Plain and simple.

[Gunnair]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Locking radars was SOP for the Soviets when I was a few years younger in my RCN career. Didn't hear quite the level of bitching you hear today.

I was on board a particular ship (just along for the ride) when a Bear locked on to it. Went to GQ and cleared the decks and you could feel the power as the ship's radar zorched the Bear. No survivors from the Bear were recovered.

Boris did the same kind of thing to us, too. Lots of 'training accidents' that occured during the Cold War were anything but training accidents.

But the clear rule was that when you were in the other guy's back yard you didn't light him up unless you wanted to meet your God.

China lighting up the Japanese while transiting Japanese territorial waters is asking for a war. Plain and simple.

Knocked a plane down with radar and the Russians didn't make a stink?

Riiiight to both.

Sorry, there's lots of power in an FC radar but knocking down planes..... only GU 11s. Makes me feel bad for all those air liners we used to light up.

Finally I'll add, that if that actually did happen, that you knocked a Bear out of the sky with your FC radar and you've now blabbed it all on the Internet, then you and I have very different ideas about OPSEC and COMSEC.

[BartSimpson]

Gunnair Gunnair:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Locking radars was SOP for the Soviets when I was a few years younger in my RCN career. Didn't hear quite the level of bitching you hear today.

I was on board a particular ship (just along for the ride) when a Bear locked on to it. Went to GQ and cleared the decks and you could feel the power as the ship's radar zorched the Bear. No survivors from the Bear were recovered.

Boris did the same kind of thing to us, too. Lots of 'training accidents' that occured during the Cold War were anything but training accidents.

But the clear rule was that when you were in the other guy's back yard you didn't light him up unless you wanted to meet your God.

China lighting up the Japanese while transiting Japanese territorial waters is asking for a war. Plain and simple.

Knocked a plane down with radar and the Russians didn't make a stink?

Riiiight to both.

Sorry, there's lots of power in an FC radar but knocking down planes..... only GU 11s. Makes me feel bad for all those air liners we used to light up.

Finally I'll add, that if that actually did happen, that you knocked a Bear out of the sky with your FC radar and you've now blabbed it all on the Internet, then you and I have very different ideas about OPSEC and COMSEC.

Five million watts aimed at a pencil point will cook the snot out of anything.

And "I" did not do anything. As for OPSEC this is nothing that's not already known in the world. I was just lucky enough to be around for one of these events. Albeit, I did not personally see anything.

[Thanos]

You can knock down a plane with your radar array?

[DrCaleb]

Thanos Thanos:

You can knock down a plane with your radar array?

Microwave ovens were a accidental discovery by a radar tech.

[Zipperfish]

Radar uses radio waves. If the radio shows being used by the radar include Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, it has been known to turn the brains of recipients into mush.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

You can knock down a plane with your radar array?

If the electronics are not sufficiently shielded, yes you can. You can also make the pilot extremely uncomfortable (as in cooking his nuts) depending on the frequency you use and the amount of power you throw at him.

Remember that the microwave oven was inspired when a radar technician noticed a chocolate bar in his pocket melted when he walked in front of a powered radar dish.

Your average microwave puts out about 300 watts to 1000 watts of diffused energy. That'll zap your croissant to steaming hot inside of 20 seconds.

The ship I was on nearly thirty yeas ago could direct five million watts of energy onto a target 100 miles away and then focus that energy to an apex that was roughly the same diameter as the letter O.

A modern Aegis is know to run out over seven million watts of power via the SPY array and some reliable estimates (like Jane's) estimate that three times that amount is more likely given that the SPY can direct a surface-to-air missile to hit a target in low earth orbit that's 120 miles up and making 17,000 miles an hour.

Now aim that same energy at Boris in what's basically a rip-off of the B-29.

[Zipperfish]

Also, butterfly farts smell like rainbows.

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Also, butterfly farts smell like rainbows.

http://www.finkbuilt.com/blog/fpv-quadc ... -by-radar/

[Gunnair]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Gunnair Gunnair:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I was on board a particular ship (just along for the ride) when a Bear locked on to it. Went to GQ and cleared the decks and you could feel the power as the ship's radar zorched the Bear. No survivors from the Bear were recovered.

Boris did the same kind of thing to us, too. Lots of 'training accidents' that occured during the Cold War were anything but training accidents.

But the clear rule was that when you were in the other guy's back yard you didn't light him up unless you wanted to meet your God.

China lighting up the Japanese while transiting Japanese territorial waters is asking for a war. Plain and simple.

Knocked a plane down with radar and the Russians didn't make a stink?

Riiiight to both.

Sorry, there's lots of power in an FC radar but knocking down planes..... only GU 11s. Makes me feel bad for all those air liners we used to light up.

Finally I'll add, that if that actually did happen, that you knocked a Bear out of the sky with your FC radar and you've now blabbed it all on the Internet, then you and I have very different ideas about OPSEC and COMSEC.

Five million watts aimed at a pencil point will cook the snot out of anything.

And "I" did not do anything. As for OPSEC this is nothing that's not already known in the world. I was just lucky enough to be around for one of these events. Albeit, I did not personally see anything.

Weird. Must be secret because a cursory search didn't find anything on USN assets using their Aegis or AN/SPQ-9, STIR, or whatever to bring down a Bear aircraft.

Me thinks some swabbie pulled a bootnecks's pisser...

[Gunnair]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Also, butterfly farts smell like rainbows.

Yes...yes they do.

[Jonny_C]

If radar can do these things, why spend all the time developing lasers?

[Gunnair]

Jonny_C Jonny_C:

If radar can do these things, why spend all the time developing lasers?

Exactly. It does make a good story though.

[ShepherdsDog]

When we pulled alongside Canada Place during Expo 86 and someone didn't turn ours off...some folk weren't impressed. I was helping one of the bosns do some painting on the mast....he was nervous about it. As a diver I was more concerned about sonar

[Gunnair]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

When we pulled alongside Canada Place during Expo 86 and someone didn't turn ours off...some folk weren't impressed. I was helping one of the bosns do some painting on the mast....he was nervous about it. As a diver I was more concerned about sonar

Generally, when the Yanks left their SPS 49 up while in harbour, then radio and TVs were always affected.