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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:00 am
 


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Informational advertising is one thing, but so much of it is blatantly just promoting the govt. You'll know an informational ad because it will just have facts and figures. I don't see many of those around. In Ontario, apparently, no MLA or whatever you call them there can appear in the ad. That's a good idea. Or are you saying that you Ontarians are bereft of govt information?


Not from the stuff I've seen.

From the ads on TV to the signs from the various stimulus package, the signs were just informative about the project and completion date with Canada and Ontario logo's on them.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:12 am
 


bootlegga bootlegga:
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An examination by The Canadian Press reveals ad budgets geared to promoting economic success have ballooned under the Conservatives since the 2008 global downturn.
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Average annual ad spending by Human Resources and Skills Development Canada, or HRSDC, was up 72 per cent in the four years following the 2008 recession, compared to the five years that preceded it.

Spending by the Finance Department was up 58 per cent, while advertising by the Canada Revenue Agency almost tripled.


As long as the money is spent here in Canada, paying Canadians to work, who cares?




Well, Curtman for one. :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:14 am
 


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OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Hey, whatever keeps ya busy for the next 15 hours. :lol:


Naw. You're simply an inconsequential side show from work, gym, writing, marketing, dog walking, child raising, and spending time with wife.

Honestly, buddy, you really are nothing more than that, irrespective of how much you wish you were more. :lol:


Perhaps one day, I can aspire to be like you and spend all day on an internet forum professing my superiority to others and making fun of others who have a social life beyond anonymous internet arguments. :lol:

Just fun pokin' at ya Gunny, you take this stuff so seriously. :lol:

14 hours, 45 minutes left....


Huh, I'm not sure how you can claim any kind moral superiority here. I spend probably an hour here every day and get into a couple of arguments and you spend five minutes a day and get into a couple of arguments.

Must say, that suggests as much about you as it does me. ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:18 am
 


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bootlegga bootlegga:
As long as the money is spent here in Canada, paying Canadians to work, who cares?

I get that some people might see it as propaganda or a tool for influencing Canadians, but it's no different than what any other previous government has done.

IMHO, it's basically just stimulus spending.


I care. My government does not need to advertise to me the good job they are doing (or that they are my government), when I can see that they are not doing a good job.

And because other governments did it too, does not mean I like it any better.

I also take exception to every road and construction project that involved federal money having a 'Canada Economic Strategy' in CPC Party colours, even if the feds fought funding the project tooth and nail, and even if the project was approved long before the CPC ever took power.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:20 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I care. My government does not need to advertise to me the good job they are doing (or that they are my government), even if they are doing a good job in my opinion.

And because other governments did it too, does not mean I like it any better.

I also take exception to every road and construction project that involved federal money having a 'Canada Economic Strategy' in CPC Party colours, even if the feds fought funding the project tooth and nail, and even if the project was approved long before the CPC ever took power.


With the slight edit, I agree.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:23 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Do you two need a room?

bootlegga bootlegga:
As long as the money is spent here in Canada, paying Canadians to work, who cares?

I get that some people might see it as propaganda or a tool for influencing Canadians, but it's no different than what any other previous government has done.

IMHO, it's basically just stimulus spending.


I care. My government does not need to advertise to me the good job they are doing (or that they are my government), when I can see that they are not doing a good job.

And because other governments did it too, does not mean I like it any better.

I also take exception to every road and construction project that involved federal money having a 'Canada Economic Strategy' in CPC Party colours, even if the feds fought funding the project tooth and nail, and even if the project was approved long before the CPC ever took power.


Nope, nor do you when you bicker with a poster on a gun thread.

As for the article, agreed. The government does not need to inform me when they think they are doing well. They need to inform me when I think they are doing poorly.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:32 am
 


Gunnair Gunnair:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Do you two need a room?


Nope, nor do you when you bicker with a poster on a gun thread.


You may have me confused with someone else. I don't bicker, and I don't do it in gun threads.


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Gunnair Gunnair:

Huh, I'm not sure how you can claim any kind moral superiority here. I spend probably an hour here every day and get into a couple of arguments and you spend five minutes a day and get into a couple of arguments.

Must say, that suggests as much about you as it does me. ;)


I don't claim anything, I'll let the facts speak for themselves.

You are aware that we can all see your posting history, right?

Here's what your posting history and habits say about you.

Most days, you start posting at 9am and don't stop until 1am posting on almost an hourly basis and get up and do it all over again starting at 9am the next day. Your posting history doesn't lie so for you to say you only spend an hour on here a day is pure fiction.

If you're suggesting that I get into as many arguments as you, that's downright laughable. I have the occasional argument with you, andy and boots but you'll go at it with anyone on a daily basis for whatever reason.

Just go back over the last few weeks and see how many topics where you've been bickering in have been locked or turned into shit-throwing fests. It's no accident you're part of those posts.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:42 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
bootlegga bootlegga:
As long as the money is spent here in Canada, paying Canadians to work, who cares?

I get that some people might see it as propaganda or a tool for influencing Canadians, but it's no different than what any other previous government has done.

IMHO, it's basically just stimulus spending.


I care. My government does not need to advertise to me the good job they are doing (or that they are my government), when I can see that they are not doing a good job.

And because other governments did it too, does not mean I like it any better.

I also take exception to every road and construction project that involved federal money having a 'Canada Economic Strategy' in CPC Party colours, even if the feds fought funding the project tooth and nail, and even if the project was approved long before the CPC ever took power.


Fair enough - I just see it as business as usual. Is it a poor idea - perhaps, but things like this are a perk of the government in office.

I'd agree that it would be nice to end such perks, but until such time as basic human nature changes, it will go on. Call me cynical, but that's the way I see government. It's not enough to make me not want to vote like most Canadians, but it has made me cynical and distrustful of politicians in general.

As such, my only requirement is that the money is spent in Canada providing at least some employment here.

After all, if we're going to waste tax money, we might as well waste it on Canadians! :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:55 am
 


bootlegga bootlegga:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
bootlegga bootlegga:
As long as the money is spent here in Canada, paying Canadians to work, who cares?

I get that some people might see it as propaganda or a tool for influencing Canadians, but it's no different than what any other previous government has done.

IMHO, it's basically just stimulus spending.


I care. My government does not need to advertise to me the good job they are doing (or that they are my government), when I can see that they are not doing a good job.

And because other governments did it too, does not mean I like it any better.

I also take exception to every road and construction project that involved federal money having a 'Canada Economic Strategy' in CPC Party colours, even if the feds fought funding the project tooth and nail, and even if the project was approved long before the CPC ever took power.


Fair enough - I just see it as business as usual. Is it a poor idea - perhaps, but things like this are a perk of the government in office.

I'd agree that it would be nice to end such perks, but until such time as basic human nature changes, it will go on. Call me cynical, but that's the way I see government. It's not enough to make me not want to vote like most Canadians, but it has made me cynical and distrustful of politicians in general.

As such, my only requirement is that the money is spent in Canada providing at least some employment here.

After all, if we're going to waste tax money, we might as well waste it on Canadians! :lol:


Yea, I agree on that. I'd rather fire the lot of them and end the BS spending, but that's my 'perfect world'.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:02 pm
 


Meh. It's money that can be better spent on just about anything. Certainly it'll keep happening, and I'm completely cynical about trying to change it, but whatever.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:34 pm
 


I don't understand for the life of me why we even let governments get away with this. We're getting a double-dose right now in BC, between the Conservatives and the BC Liberals. The government has no business advertising anything, except where prescribed by regulation that they must (public notices and such).

The COnservatveis have taken it to the next level because they realize that propganda is more effective than infromation. It's the basis of their entire communications strategy.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:58 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Gunnair Gunnair:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Do you two need a room?


Nope, nor do you when you bicker with a poster on a gun thread.


You may have me confused with someone else. I don't bicker, and I don't do it in gun threads.


And yet here you are.....bickering. ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:59 pm
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Gunnair Gunnair:

Huh, I'm not sure how you can claim any kind moral superiority here. I spend probably an hour here every day and get into a couple of arguments and you spend five minutes a day and get into a couple of arguments.

Must say, that suggests as much about you as it does me. ;)


I don't claim anything, I'll let the facts speak for themselves.

You are aware that we can all see your posting history, right?

Here's what your posting history and habits say about you.

Most days, you start posting at 9am and don't stop until 1am posting on almost an hourly basis and get up and do it all over again starting at 9am the next day. Your posting history doesn't lie so for you to say you only spend an hour on here a day is pure fiction.

If you're suggesting that I get into as many arguments as you, that's downright laughable. I have the occasional argument with you, andy and boots but you'll go at it with anyone on a daily basis for whatever reason.

Just go back over the last few weeks and see how many topics where you've been bickering in have been locked or turned into shit-throwing fests. It's no accident you're part of those posts.



Friend, last topic locked was this morning...last poster was you. ;)

As for the time...I'm logged in and I don't log out on between. I would have thought that was not beyond you. ;)


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