[Brenda]

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Hats, like sunscreen, were also not permitted by the school.

So are inhalers for asthma. Insulin for diabetes. EpiPens for bee stings. But every single parent who knows their child has a medical issue like that ensures their kid has the proper medically necessities with them at school by providing a Dr note or doing what is necessary according to school policy. This mom doesn't get a free pass. She knows her kid has a form of albinism.

Which does NOT require medication.
A Doctors note for SUNSCREEN, while everyone knows that going in the sun for too long without it causes cancer? SERIOUSLY??

You too, need your head sorted out, just like the school. It should be mandatory to BRING sunscreen, and the only thing the teacher should be doing, is apply it to the kids all freaking day.

[Prof_Chomsky]

Brenda Brenda:

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Hats, like sunscreen, were also not permitted by the school.

So are inhalers for asthma. Insulin for diabetes. EpiPens for bee stings. But every single parent who knows their child has a medical issue like that ensures their kid has the proper medically necessities with them at school by providing a Dr note or doing what is necessary according to school policy. This mom doesn't get a free pass. She knows her kid has a form of albinism.

Which does NOT require medication.
A Doctors note for SUNSCREEN, while everyone knows that going in the sun without it causes cancer? SERIOUSLY??

You too, need your head sorted out, just like the school. It should be mandatory to BRING sunscreen, and the only thing the teacher should be doing, is apply it to the kids all freaking day.

Sunscreen is an OTC drug. Why do you think so many formulations have come and gone in the past years? They weren't safe, or effective, or caused future skin issues in children. Most brands today still say not to use on kids…

The sun does NOT cause cancer if you don't wear sunscreen, I hate that the media has taught us to be afraid of something so natural and healthy. It increases the risk ONLY in fair skinned people, or those who stay outside for excessive periods of time (which varies depending on skin type).
I'm very caucasion but tan well and have never in my life had a bad burn. I've also never worn sunscreen, nor has anyone in my family. We'd work for 18 hours a day on the farm when I was a kid and never have an issue.

Those kids have a medical condition that makes them susceptible to the suns effects. That’s their mom’s job to deal with.

[Brenda]

OMFG, you are hilarious!!!

Just because YOU never had a burn, NO ONE burns?? Hell, I burn within 15 minutes, and I am freaking YELLOW!

[Prof_Chomsky]

Brenda Brenda:

ROTFL

OMFG, you are hilarious!!!

Just because YOU never had a burn, NO ONE burns?? Hell, I burn within 15 minutes, and I am freaking YELLOW!

You stated it like sunscreen is a REQUIREMENT for every single person every time and therefore should be mandatory for every single student and not considered a drug. That is patently false. You burn, so you should either cover up, wear a hat, bring an umbrella, or slather yourself in a chemical sunscreen of your choice. If the school has an allergy policy (likely because some kid got sick one time) than it’s up to you to ensure you kid who DOES burn has what he needs so he won’t.

Lots of other people DON’T burn. Sunscreen is an OTC medication.
Here is one of many non-profit, apolitical links on the effects of sunscreen use http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/ind ... -cover-up/

[Brenda]

I take it you see bug spray, body lotion, deodorant, body wash, anti-wrinkle cream and every other beauty product as "medication" too?

You are also telling me that I have to cover up because I burn, and I also cannot apply sunscreen when I am forced to be out in the sun the whole day? Don't forget, I am a child that burns easily. I cannot even make my own lunch, but you suggest I apply my own factor 60 sunscreen, that I need a doctors note for in the first place, because it is an OVER THE COUNTER "drug"? Doesn't "over the counter" mean that you do NOT need a doctors note?

Call me stupid, but the hypocrisy of this school board, that allows the TEACHERS to use sunscreen, but not the kids, is blatant.

[Newfy]

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

Sunscreen is an OTC drug. Why do you think so many formulations have come and gone in the past years? They weren't safe, or effective, or caused future skin issues in children. Most brands today still say not to use on kids…

That's funny, cause we buy sun cream made specifically for children.

[Brenda]

Newfy Newfy:

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

Sunscreen is an OTC drug. Why do you think so many formulations have come and gone in the past years? They weren't safe, or effective, or caused future skin issues in children. Most brands today still say not to use on kids…

That's funny, cause we buy sun cream made specifically for children.

He does not really get that part, since he, nor anyone in his family, has ever used it.

I wonder how old they become before they have to have skin cancers removed? Like my father has to on a regular basis, because he never used sunscreen?

[Prof_Chomsky]

Brenda Brenda:

I take it you see bug spray, body lotion, deodorant, body wash, anti-wrinkle cream and every other beauty product as "medication" too?

You are also telling me that I have to cover up because I burn, and I also cannot apply sunscreen when I am forced to be out in the sun the whole day? Don't forget, I am a child that burns easily. I cannot even make my own lunch, but you suggest I apply my own factor 60 sunscreen, that I need a doctors note for in the first place, because it is an OVER THE COUNTER "drug"? Doesn't "over the counter" mean that you do NOT need a doctors note?

Call me stupid, but the hypocrisy of this school board, that allows the TEACHERS to use sunscreen, but not the kids, is blatant.

Some of those things yes. I know quite a few people with severe allergies to chemical perfumes. Just cause someone can’t get themselves clean enough to not smell at all and feel they need to cover up that stench with a fragrance doesn’t mean it should be allowed in the work place or school. In fact most work places have fragrance free policies now for that very reason.

And I never once said the KID was at fault. He’s a kid who can’t even make his own lunch. The MOM is at fault. Her kid has a need that she didn’t bother to ensure was met.
On the topic of OTC, aspirin, Tylenol, cough syrup, allergy medication and a million other dangerous drugs are OTC as well and none are allowed at schools without a note and even then the teacher usually has to administer it. Did you even read the link I sent on the effects of sunscreen? I don’t want it on my kids.

You say it’s hypocritical, but the teacher can also choose to take their own medications because it’s a personal choice. The parent’s need to simply fill out a form, or get a note and their kids can do the exact same thing. It’s called being a responsible parent.

[Prof_Chomsky]

Newfy Newfy:

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

Sunscreen is an OTC drug. Why do you think so many formulations have come and gone in the past years? They weren't safe, or effective, or caused future skin issues in children. Most brands today still say not to use on kids…

That's funny, cause we buy sun cream made specifically for children.

Same as they have children's Tylenol or allergy meds. Let them use it, I have no problem with that at ALL. The mom in this case didn't bother though. She knew the policy clearly because she followed it... and sent her half albino child out to burn to a crisp when all she needed to do was talk to the school.

[Brenda]

It is called being irresponsible school board when you don't re apply sunscreen on the kids when they ask, when they are forced to be outside all day without any protection.

[Brenda]

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

Newfy Newfy:

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

Sunscreen is an OTC drug. Why do you think so many formulations have come and gone in the past years? They weren't safe, or effective, or caused future skin issues in children. Most brands today still say not to use on kids…

That's funny, cause we buy sun cream made specifically for children.

Same as they have children's Tylenol or allergy meds. Let them use it, I have no problem with that at ALL. The mom in this case didn't bother though. She knew the policy clearly because she followed it... and sent her half albino child out to burn to a crisp when all she needed to do was talk to the school.

She learned of the policy AFTER the fact. Did you ever read the link?

[Prof_Chomsky]

Brenda Brenda:

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

She knew the policy clearly because she followed it... and sent her half albino child out to burn to a crisp when all she needed to do was talk to the school.

She learned of the policy AFTER the fact. Did you ever read the link?

Did you? Nowhere does it say she learned anything after the fact… read the bolded lines… she knew.

Also notice that not one single other child complained about being burned or hospitalized? Her children have a legitimate medical condition that requires special care that the MOM did not accommodate for. The article clearly states all she had to do was get a note and make the school aware of the exception… instead she decided it was the school’s responsibility to do what SHE decided not to bother with…
And also note that nowhere in that article does it state staff forced the poor children to sit in the blazing sun and burn to death. It was a sporting event, likely track and field. I doubt any of the staff even took note because no one saw them longer than a few minutes.

" A mom in Washington state is steaming mad after her two daughters were so badly sunburned during a school field day, they had to be taken to hospital.
Jesse Michener from Tacoma says her daughters, Violet, 11, and Zoe, 9, came home from school last Tuesday with severe sunburns after being outside for five hours during a day of outdoor sports activities.
The girls were not allowed to bring sunscreen to school for the event because of a school-board-wide policy that bans the creams, over fears of allergic reactions.
But Michener says the policy resulted in agonizingly painful burns for her daughters. She says when the girls got home, she brought them to hospital to be looked over by doctors and kept them home the next day because of their chills and fever.
Michener was particularly outraged because her daughter Zoe has very fair skin from a form of albinism. She said the school's staff are aware of her daughter's condition, but couldn't make an exception.
The school board says it has to ban sunscreen because it's state law.
As it turns out, all states except California do not allow kids to apply or bring sunscreens to school without a doctor's note, ABC News reports, because the creams are considered an over-the-counter drug.
Michener admits she didn't apply any sunscreen to her girls in the morning, because it was raining. But even if she had, it would have needed re-applying after a few hours anyway.
"They couldn't even reapply sunscreen without a doctor's note. They couldn't carry that in their backpacks," their mother Jesse told ABC.
She also couldn't try to protect her girls with sun hats because hats are not allowed at school, even on field days.
Tacoma Public School District spokesman Dan Voelpel said the district's policy forbids teachers from applying sunblock to their students for liability reasons.
"Because so many additives in lotions and sunscreens cause allergic reaction in children, you have to really monitor that," Voelpel said.
After Michener made her children's story public, she got a call from the director of Elementary Education in Tacoma Public Schools.
"He started by expressing his deep sympathy and regret that this had happened and stated clearly there had been a break in a system designed to protect kids," Michener wrote on her blog. "He understood and fully agreed with the restrictive and short-sided policy as it stands."
The director told her that a new law was passed on June 7 that allows school districts to decide their own sunscreen policies. He hoped there would be a new policy revision by October.


Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/u-s-mom-an ... z1yvK1QZsT
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[Brenda]

Funny, you didn't bother to put this line in bold:

$1:

But even if she had, it would have needed re-applying after a few hours anyway.

You claimed they should have worn a hat. They couldn't:

$1:

She also couldn't try to protect her girls with sun hats because hats are not allowed at school, even on field days.

$1:

Tacoma Public School District spokesman Dan Voelpel said the district's policy forbids teachers from applying sunblock to their students for liability reasons.
"Because so many additives in lotions and sunscreens cause allergic reaction in children, you have to really monitor that," Voelpel said.

So they (teachers) can apply it on themselves but not on children who bring it themselves, even WITH a doctors note.

Maybe this school should not let the children come outside at all. Or to school. Seems to me that that is a liability.

[andyt]

Can't these kids just apply sunblock which they brought along themselves, with the teachers reminding them to do it?

No hats on field trips is a stupid policy. No hats inside the school makes sense, but outside hats are useful. It's also been known to rain or snow in Tacoma - no hats then either?

[Prof_Chomsky]

Brenda Brenda:

Funny, you didn't bother to put this line in bold:

$1:

But even if she had, it would have needed re-applying after a few hours anyway.

You claimed they should have worn a hat. They couldn't:

$1:

She also couldn't try to protect her girls with sun hats because hats are not allowed at school, even on field days.

$1:

Tacoma Public School District spokesman Dan Voelpel said the district's policy forbids teachers from applying sunblock to their students for liability reasons.
"Because so many additives in lotions and sunscreens cause allergic reaction in children, you have to really monitor that," Voelpel said.

So they (teachers) can apply it on themselves but not on children who bring it themselves, even WITH a doctors note.

Maybe this school should not let the children come outside at all. Or to school. Seems to me that that is a liability.

Way to change the topic

You said she didn’t know about the policy. Clearly she did.
Don’t you hate when you try to make someone look like an ass by saying stuff like “did you even read that” then it turns out you yourself don’t know how to read?


And I have the same answer... all the parent had to do was be responsible and get a note and the school would have allowed sunscreen, a hat and whatever else those kids needed that clearly every other child was fine being without.

The FACT she KNEW the policy and did NOTHING to protect her kids makes her responsible.

Even if that mom had contacted the school and for some reason they were unreasonable and said no even after a doctor’s note she should NOT have sent them to track and field day. You don’t send your albino child out in the sun all day without protection.

If your kid had a bee allergy and they were touring a honey farm, but needles weren’t allowed at school what would you do?

1. Get a doctor’s note so the kid could bring an EpiPen
2. Hide the EpiPen in his stuff and say, screw the school take this because you NEED it.
3. Not send the kid allergic to bees to the honey farm.
4. Send your kid with nothing, have him get stung to death, then blame the school because they have a generic policy saying kids can’t bring needles to school without being granted a medical exception.