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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:19 am
 


I can't, I'm not sure anybody has identified them. Are you saying that those shouts from the audience didn't happen?


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Hard to give him electrolytes if he's vomiting.


Kids don't vomit constantly. They do have time to sip back some Pedialyte or suck on a Pedialyte popsicle if they're old enough.

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Christ OTI, what are you thinking. The kid went into convulsions. He should have been admitted right away. 2 million children die every year from diarrhea, mostly in 3 world countries. Have we really sunk that low?


He was. When they returned and he was convulsing, he was admitted.

Dehydration is common in small children, that's why most drug stores have complete lines of products for this and that's precisely what the clinic and the hospital told her to do.

The hospital could have handled it better perhaps by telling the mom how to properly treat the child at home and perhaps even offered some free product.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:32 am
 


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La Freniere took the baby on April 4 to a walk-in clinic and then to RUH, where she was told to take him home and feed him Pedialyte, a product used to treat dehydration in children.

She said she is particularly dismayed with the reaction the following day of staff who failed to recognize the signs of dehydration and doctors who didn't examine, weigh or touch the crying baby.

Connor filled eight diapers with diarrhea in three to four hours in the ER and hadn't urinated in more than 12 hours at that point. She was sent away again.

About 56 hours into the ordeal, on the night of April 6, the baby began convulsing, causing La Freniere to fear for his life as she returned to the hospital for the third time in three days.

"He was limp, his eyes weren't moving and were rolled back, but open. He was light, (it) felt like I was carrying a doll. He was barely breathing. I was preparing to say goodbye to my son," La Freniere wrote in an email.

Emergency room staff started intravenous fluids, took X-rays and placed a catheter, but when they attempted to take blood samples, the only spot that worked was in his forehead. The blood immediately clotted and it was another day before staff were able to draw a proper sample, La Freniere said.

Staff later told La Freniere they hadn't expected him to make it through the night.

After three days in hospital, Connor was released on April 10, leaving La Freniere dazed and exhausted.

Dr. Lawrence Givlichian, head of the department of pediatrics, said the "chain of unfortunate events" will be examined by an interdisciplinary team of subspecialists who will analyze each visit to find the cause of the system failure.

"We are terribly sorry to hear that this is how she feels about it," he said. "Definitely an apology will be made more formally."


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:58 am
 


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I can't, I'm not sure anybody has identified them. Are you saying that those shouts from the audience didn't happen?


Then you don't know who said it so don't attribute the comment to a Teabagger, a neocon, an Occupier, a card-carrying Communist, or anyone else.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:00 pm
 


So occupiers and communists infiltrated that event and acted as agents provocateurs?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:12 pm
 


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she was told to take him home and feed him Pedialyte, a product used to treat dehydration in children.


And did she?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:15 pm
 


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So occupiers and communists infiltrated that event and acted as agents provocateurs?


I've 'infiltrated' Occupy events here in Sacramento (meaning I just walked right on in) and waved around my Soviet flag for the media. What's to stop anyone from going to any event and posing as whoever with the intent to discredit them?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:15 pm
 


I don't know. Do you? She looks like a concerned mom, so my bet would be that she did.


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she was told to take him home and feed him Pedialyte, a product used to treat dehydration in children.


And did she?

When you read more than the first sentence, you will see that the head of the pediatric department is quite ashamed and says to have it investigated.

I had my kids have diarrhea and vomiting at the same time, I gave them whatever is sold over the counter to prevent them from dehydrating. Sometimes, that is just not enough. THIS was one of those times. But hey, when the doctors and nurses won't listen, examine or look at your child, OF COURSE the mom is just overreacting. SO overreacting, it nearly cost her child's life.

How the hell can you NOT blame the hospital here? Seriously :roll:


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Brenda Brenda:
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
andyt andyt:
she was told to take him home and feed him Pedialyte, a product used to treat dehydration in children.


And did she?

When you read more than the first sentence, you will see that the head of the pediatric department is quite ashamed and says to have it investigated.

I had my kids have diarrhea and vomiting at the same time, I gave them whatever is sold over the counter to prevent them from dehydrating. Sometimes, that is just not enough. THIS was one of those times. But hey, when the doctors and nurses won't listen, examine or look at your child, OF COURSE the mom is just overreacting. SO overreacting, it nearly cost her child's life.

How the hell can you NOT blame the hospital here? Seriously :roll:


We don't have the full story, we have a partial story to sensationalize there was an error of judgement on the part of some medical professionals. Did mom treat the child? Was the child ill? How bad were the child's symptoms on first visit? The list goes on.

I'm not going to throw everyone under the bus just because I got a wiff of wrong-doing.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:32 pm
 


The hospital does not know, because they refused to look at the kid.
Does it really matter if the mom treated the child or not? When it got there and was finally admitted, it was not sure if it would have made it through the night.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:38 pm
 


Brenda Brenda:
The hospital does not know, because they refused to look at the kid.
Does it really matter if the mom treated the child or not? When it got there and was finally admitted, it was not sure if it would have made it through the night.


Where does it say the hospital never looked at the kid?

Sorry, I don't buy that she went to the hospital and they basically turned her away at the door without even a basic examination all while recommending treatment.

Unlike you, I'm not willing to throw these people under the bus based on a vague article about the situation.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:42 pm
 


But you are willing to throw mom under the bus. So noted.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:45 pm
 


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Where does it say the hospital never looked at the kid?



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She said she is particularly dismayed with the reaction the following day of staff who failed to recognize the signs of dehydration and doctors who didn't examine, weigh or touch the crying baby.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:47 pm
 


Can you imagine going to the hospital with your child, be sent away with "give it electrolytes", which you have, and do again, but doesn't help, then go back, baby fills 8 diapers in 4 hours, and you are sent home AGAIN, and then the next day, you get told "WTH were you thinking, not coming in earlier? We hope he makes it through the night, but no guarantees"

Really.


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