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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:48 am
MeganC MeganC: Not me. If a man hits me I'm shooting him. 2cdo 2cdo: So I guess you're okay with a man shooting a woman that hits him!  Men who don't hit women don't need to worry about it. You didn't answer the question.
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:54 am
OnTheIce OnTheIce: fifeboy fifeboy: OnTheIce OnTheIce: I wonder how many women think it's acceptable to hit a man. Badly said! Not at all. Women often abuse men, so I'd love to see the question posed to women as well. It's socially acceptable for a woman to assault a man. Socially acceptable where?
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Brenda
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:57 am
SprCForr SprCForr: Brenda Brenda: Rednecks. Some, yes. Certainly not all. It appears the reporter opted to take the low numbers to arrive at the "nearly one in ten" when it could (using the same margin of error) be read as "nearly 95% of Alberta men feel physically assaulting a woman is unacceptable". Funny things them stats... Of course he did. I take it that more than 9 out of 10 are not rednecks. Which proves my point: Rednecks find it ok to hit women 
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:59 am
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: $1: As well, a whopping 40 per cent of respondents agreed with the statement: "If a woman wears provocative clothing, she's putting herself at risk for rape." Stop the planet, I'm leaving I think you may be reading too much into the responses. It's not like 40% are saying she deserves to be raped. I think it's more an understanding BY those 40% that there are more than enough losers out there that think a women wearing a sexy outfit in public means she's open for business. I think the response is more of an acknowledgement of the freaks in society, not an indictment of what a woman wears.
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andyt
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:02 am
IT is OK to hit a woman in self defense. Had a friend who got kicked in the balls because he broke up with a woman - he didn't hit her, I would have. Lots of aggressive women out there now - the movies are full of women kicking men's asses. You hit, you've got to expect to get hit.
In a domestic violence training film, the statement was made that "it's OK for a woman to attack a man with a knife, because he'll probably take it away from her." Shows the level of bias we have in society.
It's not OK to hit anybody - first. Somebody comes at you, man or woman, it's certainly OK to protect yourself. Women don't want to get hit - simple solution, don't hit men.
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:13 am
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:15 am
andyt andyt: IT is OK to hit a woman in self defense. Had a friend who got kicked in the balls because he broke up with a woman - he didn't hit her, I would have. Lots of aggressive women out there now - the movies are full of women kicking men's asses. You hit, you've got to expect to get hit.
In a domestic violence training film, the statement was made that "it's OK for a woman to attack a man with a knife, because he'll probably take it away from her." Shows the level of bias we have in society.
It's not OK to hit anybody - first. Somebody comes at you, man or woman, it's certainly OK to protect yourself. Women don't want to get hit - simple solution, don't hit men. Very well said andyt. I would rep you for this. ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:18 am
Strutz Strutz: Socially acceptable where? In reality. Imagine the outrage if a women came up to a man in a bar, make a rude comment and he slapped her in the face. He'd be in jail within an hour. When a woman does it, it's funny. It's a complete double standard we have. It's socially acceptable to hit a man because he's rude or because "he can take it". Look at TV shows and movies....
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:21 am
andyt andyt: IT is OK to hit a woman in self defense. Had a friend who got kicked in the balls because he broke up with a woman - he didn't hit her, I would have. Lots of aggressive women out there now - the movies are full of women kicking men's asses. You hit, you've got to expect to get hit.
In a domestic violence training film, the statement was made that "it's OK for a woman to attack a man with a knife, because he'll probably take it away from her." Shows the level of bias we have in society.
It's not OK to hit anybody - first. Somebody comes at you, man or woman, it's certainly OK to protect yourself. Women don't want to get hit - simple solution, don't hit men. Well said. Here's a personal story of mine. Back in highschool, I was dating this nutjob. Long story short. I didn't bring her breakfast cause I forgot my wallet She wasn't happy, so I just picked up and started to leave. As I left, she attacked me, tearing out my hair and cutting my face with her nails. I didn't do anything but tell her "stay back or I'll call the cops". She attacked me again. I went to use the phone to call 911 and she came at me again, and I shoved her onto the floor and took off. In the end, the cops are at MY HOUSE asking me never to return, despite the fact that I have a cut up face and chunks of hair missing.
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:23 am
A woman generally can't put a man in a hospital, or the morgue, with a couple of punches the way a man can almost certainly do to a woman. And the heroes of the sleeveless t-shirt subspecies usually don't stop at just a couple of punches either. That's the reason for the different social and legal perspectives, boys.
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:31 am
OnTheIce OnTheIce: Strutz Strutz: Socially acceptable where? In reality. Imagine the outrage if a women came up to a man in a bar, make a rude comment and he slapped her in the face. He'd be in jail within an hour. When a woman does it, it's funny. It's a complete double standard we have. It's socially acceptable to hit a man because he's rude or because "he can take it". Look at TV shows and movies.... Well, I don't think it's funny. Assault is assault as far as I'm concerned. I knew a guy several years ago who was physically assaulted by his ex-wife. Many times. The bitch just wanted him to slug her back so she could cry "wife-beater".
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andyt
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:31 am
OK, I actually took a look at the story. It's that one out of 10 men thinks it's OK to hit a woman if she does something to anger him. It's not OK to hit someone under those circumstances, man or woman.
Men are socialized to hit when angry. We're going to have to get over that - with each other as much as with women. And women are way better at pushing our buttons than we are with them. Again, we have to learn control, not just lash out.
But there are plenty of aggressive women out here. She hits, she's got to expect to get hit back. She likely won't put the man in the hospital just with a couple of hits, and there's no excuse for the man retaliating to that level.
The problem with a story like this, and the responses, is that it mixes up so many different scenarios. The "a man never hits a woman" story line is bullshit. But so is the "she made me angry so I couldn't help it" one. Women need to take more responsibility for when they hit - they often lash out, under the excuse that she's just a frail woman and a real man would just take it. Don't want to get hit - don't hit. Simple rule that applies to all of us.
As an aside, many here have said that certain insults, man to man, deserve getting physical. I don't agree with that either.
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:39 am
Thanos Thanos: A woman generally can't put a man in a hospital, or the morgue, with a couple of punches the way a man can almost certainly do to a woman. And the heroes of the sleeveless t-shirt subspecies usually don't stop at just a couple of punches either. That's the reason for the different social and legal perspectives, boys. Doesn't matter. An assault is an assault, whether the punch results in a cut or a bruise.
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:42 am
Strutz Strutz: Well, I don't think it's funny. Assault is assault as far as I'm concerned.
I knew a guy several years ago who was physically assaulted by his ex-wife. Many times. The bitch just wanted him to slug her back so she could cry "wife-beater". I'm glad to hear that, perhaps if more women felt the same, we could rid society of this double-standard.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:45 am
OnTheIce OnTheIce: Doesn't matter.
An assault is an assault, whether the punch results in a cut or a bruise. An assault is an assault. An assault causing bodily harm is more than an assault. An aggravated assault is more than an assault causing bodily harm. So it does matter.
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