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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:27 pm
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:
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Are you speaking about all right-wingers now? You must know quite a few of them if you are able to make that generalization.


No of course not. Everyone knows you're only allowed to generalize about "pinko leftists"


Part of your complaint seems to be about the generalizing of the pinko left by the angry right.

No?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:59 pm
 


Gunnair Gunnair:
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You're now trying to dodge from your original statement. Fact is, you're dropping bloviated proclamations that you are incabable of substantiating.


I'm not dodging anything. Most people that know who Don Cherry is know that he will say a lot of stupid, belligerent crap about politics without any prompting at all. This is not the first time it has happened, and his dumb quips have grabbed media attention for more than a week, more than once. If Rob Ford thought it wouldn't happen this one time, or didn't expect it in the first place, he needs to get his head out of his ass and take a look around. Even Don Cherry called Rob Ford an idiot in a roundabout way, at the end of the article.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:56 am
 


Gunnair Gunnair:

Part of your complaint seems to be about the generalizing of the pinko left by the angry right.

No?


LOL YES. My point exactly. Stone-throwers, welcome to your glass house. Thanks.

Also, reading some of the responses here and other sites, some of the defence of Cherry's actions seem to follow this logic:

"The Pinko leftists publicly humiliate and insult us simply by existing and having the gall to keep their left-wing campaign promises when elected. Therefore, Cherry's rant and spectacle is nothing more than justifiable pay-back and nothing new."

The above is total face-palm comment if I ever heard one.


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Wait..that was a real comment? :?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:35 am
 


The quote I wrote was a paraphrase of user comments here and on the National Post website. The actual comment would be those such as;

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His words are nothing to compared to the bullying of politicians who pass laws to regulate and control every aspect of our lives and finances, as if freedom of choice is some sort of vile disease to be stamped out.

Read more: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... z17ss3EE5n


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Challenge: provide me with a single example of a formal swearing-in ceremony where a left-wing office holder or one of his proxies turned to the audience and essentially said “suck on this”.

How about:
Allan Rock, and the introduction of Bill C-68, which later turned into the Firearms Act.
Jean Chretien and his " I don't trust anyone from the West."
The BC NDP leader (that's Carol James for you easterners) introducing a policy that forbids men from running as candidates when an incumbent resigns?


You want to be considered a "non-citizen" to a Liberal? Buy a gun and then register it.
Read more: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... z17stDk39I


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Qball Qball:
All the years that Rob Ford had to ensure being called names by the same councilors who are whining now in the same chamber, well, I guess payback's a bitch


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:46 am
 


Ah ok, so the dreck about "the lefties keeping their campaign" promises was your little touch.
Like Chretien's "Scrap da GST?
Or McGuinty's contract with the Ontario Taxpayer's Federation?
Like..those campaign promises???


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:07 am
 


The paraphrase is of the claim that a lefty politician grievously insults non-lefties any time he enacts a lefty policy...e.g gun registry. What is a lefty policy but something that the lefty politician promised to his lefty followers who voted him into office?


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BeaverFever BeaverFever:
The paraphrase is of the claim that a lefty politician grievously insults non-lefties any time he enacts a lefty policy...e.g gun registry. What is a lefty policy but something that the lefty politician promised to his lefty followers who voted him into office?

Yeah, and one sees the same reaction from non-righties when a righty enacts righty policy.
I just find it sad that the right and left both piss and moan at each other for doing the same shit they do/did themselves.
The only group with shorter memories than the Canadian voter are Canadian politicians. Although I firmly believe it's a very selective memory loss.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:21 am
 


I like it - the pinko left and the angry right.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:16 am
 


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Yeah, and one sees the same reaction from non-righties when a righty enacts righty policy.

Well I think there is a qualitative difference in that a growing segment of the mainstream right embraces and celebrates this kind of "Cherry-bomb" behaviour. You really don't see that kind of attitude in the mainstream left, only on the radical fringes of the left, like G20 protesters, etc.

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I just find it sad that the right and left both piss and moan at each other for doing the same shit they do/did themselves.
The only group with shorter memories than the Canadian voter are Canadian politicians. Although I firmly believe it's a very selective memory loss.


No argument there, but that is unfortunately a fundamental characteristic of human behaviour. It is known as Fundamental Attribution Error, a phenomenon where an individual excuses or justifies his or her own behaviour while condemning others who do the exact same thing. It affects not only the way we interpret day-to-day behaviour but also politics, history and our understanding of the world For example, when we speed down the highway and weave in and out of traffic, its because we are in a hurry and the speed limits are too low. If we get pulled over, we ask if the police have better things to do than to harass good citizens. When we see others doing this, its because they are reckless and we hope they get caught. We also like to think of our own ancestors as "brave explorers" who "tamed foreign lands," while we claim that others were "bloodthirsty conquerors" who slaughtered millions. Human beings are naturally self-serving hypocrites willing to bend the truth and apply selective judgment whenever its convenient. That's why I'm not a big believer in a lot of "direct democracy" and politicians who pander to populist "everyman" sentiments, but I'll admit that I don't have a perfect solution either.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:49 am
 


Nice speach. The "Fundamental Attribution Error"!


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