[BeaverFever]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Is there some reason you clipped this bit from your quote, Beave?

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Baaklini attempted to smooth over the situation. “As Cardinal Rai so eloquently put it to the attendees of the In Defense of Christians’ inaugural Summit gala dinner: ‘At every wedding, there are a few problems,’” he said in a statement following the incident. “In this case, a few politically motivated opportunists chose to divide a room that for more than 48 hours sought unity in opposing the shared threat of genocide, faced not only by our Christian brothers and sisters, but our Jewish brothers and sisters and people of all other faiths and all people of good will.”

It's from the head of the organization that put on the gala - the IDC, or In Defence of Christians.

Also Beave, you forgot to tell us about the other guy who was at the event and seemed to share your delight in the scattering of anti-semitic boobirds.

This guy:

James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute and another speaker at IDC’s conference

No the quote doesn’t prove anything about Arab Christians opinion of Palestinian liberation. It doesn’t even indicate his own opinion of Palestinian liberation. And you must not read cey well because it clearly says Zogby is a Christian.

[BeaverFever]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

And another thing you always forget to tell us when you're telling us about Christians in the disputed territories is stuff like this:

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The Jesuit magazine America recently reported that Arab Christians are fleeing in droves from Bethlehem, the hallowed city of Jesus Christ’s birth.

https://providencemag.com/2016/03/why-a ... s-fleeing/

And, of course, you can find something blaming those evil Jews, but you should know there's a counter-argument. Click the link and discover it if you like.

But I'm not sure what your point is. You seem to be thinking Arab Christians are necessarily pro-Muslim or something. If that were true then why are so many leaving lately while the Muslim population is growing in the area they're leaving?

An American Evangelical magazine not exactly reliable source.

[PluggyRug]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

And another thing you always forget to tell us when you're telling us about Christians in the disputed territories is stuff like this:

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The Jesuit magazine America recently reported that Arab Christians are fleeing in droves from Bethlehem, the hallowed city of Jesus Christ’s birth.

https://providencemag.com/2016/03/why-a ... s-fleeing/

And, of course, you can find something blaming those evil Jews, but you should know there's a counter-argument. Click the link and discover it if you like.

But I'm not sure what your point is. You seem to be thinking Arab Christians are necessarily pro-Muslim or something. If that were true then why are so many leaving lately while the Muslim population is growing in the area they're leaving?

An American Evangelical magazine not exactly reliable source.

Some credible news sources for your relief

[BeaverFever]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Or they could just give up West Bank and Gaza since it’s not theirs to begin with.

The West Bank is in dispute.

Did I hear you say you didn't think Israel did give up Gaza? I admit I thought they did. Show me what I missed.

Are you under the mistaken impression that there is an internationally recognized sovereign state called “Gaza” or something? Because there isn’t one. It is a self governing territory under Israeli contol.

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This bit though, I do think I know something about.

When you say "Christians in the region are also mostly Palestinians" I'm not sure what you mean by 'Palestinians.' I do remember reading a stat from I think it was 2007 stating they were 80% Arab.

Arab is a language and culture not just a genetic “race”.

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If it's just the region you're talking about though, wouldn't Jews be Palestinian?

. You should find a Jewish person and propose the name change.

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Speaking of which...funny you should bring up Yasser Arafat. I just read something about Yasser. Did you ever hear this one? It's from Daniel Pipes site, but it's not from him. It's from one of his readers so I don't know how accurate it is.

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Even Yasser Arafat, the most famous "Palestinian" and leader of the P.L.O terrorist organization, was not native to Judea. He called himself a "Palestinian refugee" but spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent. He was born in 1929 Cairo, Egypt. He served in the Egyptian army, studied in the University of Cairo, and lived in Cairo until 1956! His full name was Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini. "Al-Qudwa" tribe origin?

Yasser Arafat also proudly stated in his authorized biography that, "If there is any such thing as a Palestinian people, it is I, Yasser Arafat, who created them.

Yeah yeah. And Obama was born in Kenya too.

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There is no occupation of the West Bank. There is a dispute of territory.

Why do you think does “dispute of territory” means it’s not an occupation?

So I guess China can go ahead and invade Taiwan then, since they claim the territory as their own? Can anyone invade anyone as long as they “dispute the territory”

[ShepherdsDog]

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If it's just the region you're talking about though, wouldn't Jews be Palestinian?

Prior to the creation of Israel, when the term 'Palestinian' was used it was in reference to the Jewish residents of the region, the Arabs were just called Arabs. There was no Palestinian state.....it was just a region of the Ottoman Empire. The Jerusalem Post was originally named the Palestine Post from 1932 to 1950

[ShepherdsDog]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Some credible news sources for your relief

So we should refer to this as Fox I guess

[Thanos]

Guh. Looks like a Trump Admin press release.

[BartSimpson]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

I've long wondered what you look like. Thanks for posting the selfie!

[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Someday the IDF will send the UN packing and then the tanks and bulldozers will roll into Gaza and the West Bank to put an end to the Palestinian threat. And the irony of it is that it is the Palestinians who are certain to deliver the casus belli.

The IDF could do that right now. The UN has never stopped them before.

They need the moral imperative to pull this off and right now they don't have it.

But say Hamas uses an Iranian nuke on Haifa or Tel Aviv and it'll be game on.

Iran doesn't have nukes. You are so blinded by hate that you are not making any sense at all.

[Thanos]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Iran doesn't have nukes. You are so blinded by hate that you are not making any sense at all.

Israel has 200 to 400 of them. And will, as per their Samson Option, turn the entire Mediterranean and Persian Gulf basins into radioactive glass if they're ever attacked with a nuke.

[ShepherdsDog]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

I've long wondered what you look like. Thanks for posting the selfie!

So hurt. Coming from a guy who thinks a 30 something yr. old fucking a 14 yr. old girl is normal. Back to your COD so you can regale us with your combat experience.

[N_Fiddledog]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

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If it's just the region you're talking about though, wouldn't Jews be Palestinian?

Prior to the creation of Israel, when the term 'Palestinian' was used it was in reference to the Jewish residents of the region, the Arabs were just called Arabs. There was no Palestinian state.....it was just a region of the Ottoman Empire. The Jerusalem Post was originally named the Palestine Post from 1932 to 1950

So you seem to be saying Jews were Palestinians then they weren't, so Palestinian as we are told to understand the term now simply means Arabs of the region. It's a relatively new thing then.

So I wonder now if Yasser Arafat was right when he claimed the below in his official biography:

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`If there is any such thing as a Palestinian people, it is I, Yasser Arafat, who created them.`

[N_Fiddledog]

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Until the 1967 Six Day War, the Gaza Strip was held by Egypt and the West Bank by Jordan. Before Arafat turned Gaza into a terrorist haven, Egypt wanted Gaza back. Now it doesn’t, to spare itself from jihadist mayhem. Likewise, Jordan no longer wants the West Bank back. To isolate Palestinians and protect their own regimes, these Arab states go along with the fiction that Gazans and West Bankers are a distinct people that inherently deserve their own homeland. When Egypt, Jordan and other Arab countries call for Israel to return to its pre-1967 borders, they aren’t calling for Gaza to go back to its pre-1967 border under Egyptian rule, or for the West Bank to go back to Jordan. They are calling for the Palestinians — who are widely reviled in the Arab world — to be contained in their own state, in the expectation that Israel will then keep Palestinian terrorists at bay. Since Israel also doesn’t want to incorporate Gazans and West Bankers into Israel proper, it too now goes along with the fiction.

http://business.financialpost.com/opini ... -over-gaza

And no offense Beave, but claiming Gaza is under Israeli control is ridiculous.

[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

And another thing you always forget to tell us when you're telling us about Christians in the disputed territories is stuff like this:

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The Jesuit magazine America recently reported that Arab Christians are fleeing in droves from Bethlehem, the hallowed city of Jesus Christ’s birth.

https://providencemag.com/2016/03/why-a ... s-fleeing/

And, of course, you can find something blaming those evil Jews, but you should know there's a counter-argument. Click the link and discover it if you like.

But I'm not sure what your point is. You seem to be thinking Arab Christians are necessarily pro-Muslim or something. If that were true then why are so many leaving lately while the Muslim population is growing in the area they're leaving?

An American Evangelical magazine not exactly reliable source.

But see here's the problem with calling somebody a liar on the grounds they don't belong to your preferred religion. They might be using rational argument.

You don't know they're not when your expertise relies on the fact you didn't click the link.

Here it is:

https://providencemag.com/2016/03/why-a ... s-fleeing/

Try it again. This time show us what they said that was untrue or unreasoned and what source or rationale you're basing that on.

If you won't do it I'm going to say it's because you can't and you become the unreliable source.

[BartSimpson]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Coming from a guy who thinks a 30 something yr. old fucking a 14 yr. old girl is normal.

I never said that this is normal in the present but that it was normal forty years ago in much of the USA.

Which it was and I provided links and details to substantiate this fact.

Now go fuck yourself.