[mtpockets]

Brenda Brenda:

$1:

I spoke to my therapist and she told me to suck it up.

You realize I charge $ 250/hr?

Will you take that in Canadian Tire money?

[martin14]

mtpockets mtpockets:

Brenda Brenda:

mtpockets mtpockets:

So Brenda, ignore all those issues I pointed out and suck it up right? Gotcha...

How can you work on all those issues if you don't consider yourself Canadian? How can you blame a government for all your shit, that you don't see as yours?

I am working on it. Do you think I'm blowing steam up your behind? I've never been more serious in my life. Either this attitude towards NL stops or get ready to face the music. See my post above on the fisheries for one of the reasons I'm pissed.

But the fishermen are just as responsible as any gov't policy
for the destruction of the fishery.

And EU trawlers 'on the fringes' of our 200mile limit are still

outside the limit.

Or, if you like, maybe you can row your dorys out past 200 miles,
and then take pot shots at the Spanish and Portugese.
The Newfoundland Navy... paid for by who though ?

[ziggy]

Their not overfishing in "Canada's" waters so what's your problem?

[mtpockets]

Martin/Ziggy:

I put it to you that fish don't necessarily know what constitutes 200 miles offshore or not. They happily swim back and forth across the boundary lines, oblivious to the danger from the big, bad trawlers. As custodians of this resource we would be remiss in ignoring the EU's threat to these stocks. Do you actually think these foreign trawlers repect our 200 mile limit? Why do you think DFO patrols these waters constantly, looking out for violators?

[martin14]

mtpockets mtpockets:

Martin/Ziggy:

I put it to you that fish don't necessarily know what constitutes 200 miles offshore or not. They happily swim back and forth across the boundary lines, oblivious to the danger from the big, bad trawlers. As custodians of this resource we would be remiss in ignoring the EU's threat to these stocks. Do you actually think these foreign trawlers repect our 200 mile limit? Why do you think DFO patrols these waters constantly, looking out for violators?

1. Be happy you have 200 miles.. the rest of the world lives with 12.
Brought to you by the Canadian government.

2. Do you think the Newfoundland navy could do a better job of patrolling
the waters ? And how do you propose to pay for such things ?

3. Are you willing to admit the inshore fisherman are just as responsible
for the destruction of the fish stocks ?

[ziggy]

So what do you suggest Canada do?

Tell the fish to stay in our waters?

[Thanos]

I highly doubt that any of the anti-Maritimer attitude and policy that's stifled the economy of the Atlantic provinces since about, oh say, 1868, originated in Alberta, BC, or any of the other frontier provinces that've been royally and continuously screwed over by Ottawa just as badly as Newfoundland's ever been.

If Newfoundlanders have a problem with the way they've been treated maybe they should discuss the issue with some of their former MP's, like Mr. George Baker, who quite willingly made themselves subservient to federal Liberal policy for over sixty years. I'll be ther first to say that Stephen Harper is incredibly polarizing, but it smells pretty fucking fishy to me when Harper is given the blame for allegedly souring the federal/Newfoundland relationship while Liberal PM's since St. Laurent get a free pass.

Mix all this naked anti-Alberta bias with the deafening silence on Liberal responsibility together and this thread looks like just another anti-Harper/anti-Conservative smear-job to me.

[bootlegga]

mtpockets mtpockets:

I once wanted a stronger Canada too, until I woke up and realized it's a pipe dream that will never happen. Oh, it might have happened if the system worked according to plan. But a central government that serves to strengthen areas like Ontario and Alberta while Atlantic Canada scrambles to gather the few scraps that trickle down from above...well you can keep that Canada. It does nothing to build cohesion, it does nothing to foster strength and stability. It does, however, serve to divide and create discension. A quick browse through CKA bears that out completely.

So now I'm fighting for a better future for my home province. A future that doesn't rely on the whims and political manoeverings of a federal government.

You can talk trash about Alberta and Ontario when your province starts actually paying into the transfer payment system, instead of sucking at the proverbial teat for more than five decades...

[Brenda]

mtpockets mtpockets:

Brenda Brenda:

$1:

I spoke to my therapist and she told me to suck it up.

You realize I charge $ 250/hr?

Will you take that in Canadian Tire money?

You want "made in China" treatment?

[ziggy]

I've worked and lived with Newfies for so many years that I even picked up the accent me bye.
When I come back from a ringer or dragging up me Mom allways ask's me "Why are yeh talkin like a Newfie bye"?

Thats cuz of where I was too mom.

[Goober_McGee]

sorry, but WTF?!

Newfoundlander jokes are just harmless ribbing from brother Canadians, do you think Westerners, Albertans especially, aren't the brunt of jokes, some of which aren't harmless at all? Anti-Harper/Anti-Conservative sentiment always seems to get directed at Alberta, but do you think we can just elect Liberal MP's and governments
after the NEP? By some practically divine luck Alberta gets some oil and gas resources and in one fell swoop it's taken away. Alberta and the rest of the west are treated as colonies by Eastern Canada. The West wants to show that we're equal members in the Canadian Federation with the ability to contribute, not have everything taken away from us without so much as a thank you.

The fisheries drying up isn't just the federal government's fault, but the provincial government of Newfoundland's and foreign fishers as well. Everyone dropped the ball on that one.

If you don't like the way the federal government works, do something to change it. That's the beauty of a free and democratic society, you can work to change it without threatening separation. Working together will get more done with a better outcome than just having everyone doing their own thing and infighting. A decent, unbiased education in the history and the various cultures of Canada would benefit all the provinces and ultimately Canada immensely. No more provincial and cultural divides if there was an understanding of where the other was coming from.

Alberta and Newfoundland have more in common than anyone would think.

tl;dr We're all Canadian it'd be easier to work together than to work selfishly for one's own interest.

/end rant

[Gunnair]

mtpockets mtpockets:

Ruez, I bow in your general direction. I feel so grateful to be in your wonderful prescence. *smirk*

Stay tuned. The 1949 experiment is coming to a close.

Good luck with that Iceland part deux...

[Gunnair]

mtpockets mtpockets:

I once wanted a stronger Canada too, until I woke up and realized it's a pipe dream that will never happen. Oh, it might have happened if the system worked according to plan. But a central government that serves to strengthen areas like Ontario and Alberta while Atlantic Canada scrambles to gather the few scraps that trickle down from above...well you can keep that Canada. It does nothing to build cohesion, it does nothing to foster strength and stability. It does, however, serve to divide and create discension. A quick browse through CKA bears that out completely.

So now I'm fighting for a better future for my home province. A future that doesn't rely on the whims and political manoeverings of a federal government.

Your avatar is rather ironic....

[ziggy]

Gunnair Gunnair:

mtpockets mtpockets:

I once wanted a stronger Canada too, until I woke up and realized it's a pipe dream that will never happen. Oh, it might have happened if the system worked according to plan. But a central government that serves to strengthen areas like Ontario and Alberta while Atlantic Canada scrambles to gather the few scraps that trickle down from above...well you can keep that Canada. It does nothing to build cohesion, it does nothing to foster strength and stability. It does, however, serve to divide and create discension. A quick browse through CKA bears that out completely.

So now I'm fighting for a better future for my home province. A future that doesn't rely on the whims and political manoeverings of a federal government.

Your avatar is rather ironic....

It's probably Danny himself.

mtpocket's,get it?

[Thanos]

If this is typical of the attitude that's be engendered out in Newfoundland then Danny Williams is a lot more than some obnoxious strutting little ponce of a populist. It sounds to me like he and jerks like George Baker are running around and playing up the dolchstoss card the same way the crypto-fascist assholes in the Parti/Bloc Quebecois do. Hopefully the majority of the Newfies are smart enough to see through it.