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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:20 pm
 


Ça vaut pas la peine. but obviously you cant see the forrest for the trees.. Quebec is culturally and linguistically different than other provinces in Canada and as such we are striving to survive in a North America that is predominantly English speaking... The official language of the US is English... if we did nothing to protect our language and culture, assimilation would wipe us out.. Canada is losing what ever culture it had and allowing immigration to fragment and destroy what bound English Canadians together. In Quebec we have and will fight to continue the protection of both language and culture.. we are not self obsessed as you say.. we are only protecting our heritage.. Immigrants from Europe have a common bond with either language and or religion and a geographical connection which makes it both acceptable and easy to integrate into Canadian culture. Immigrants from the middle east however have a vast difference in culture language and religion that is making it difficult for them to integrate and therefore they choose to try and change ours to make life better for them and it is causing great difficulty in not just Quebec, but all provinces. That is why I believe that greater assessment about the origin of the immigrant should be considered when allowing them to come to Canada. I agree that we need immigration and realize that this is inevitable. However we should end multiculturalism and the law that allows family immigration just because of having to be separated from each other..My grandparents and great grandparents immigrated from France and England and they came here with only the immediate family and there wasnt government handouts to help them either.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:23 pm
 


New Brunswick is different than other provinces too. You don't hear them whine about it, do ya :twisted:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:37 pm
 


nice post Kenmore !

New-Brunswick is not different. Acadians are different. You don't hear them probably because they are not enough to make noise. But their assimilation rate is 8%. That mean, if your born acadian, there is 8% of chances that you will switch to english as your main language during your life. They are in clear danger of being assimilated, it's much more obvious than in Québec.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:45 pm
 


Marc01 Marc01:
nice post Kenmore !

New-Brunswick is not different. Acadians are different. You don't hear them probably because they are not enough to make noise. But their assimilation rate is 8%. That mean, if your born acadian, there is 8% of chances that you will switch to english as your main language during your life. They are in clear danger of being assimilated, it's much more obvious than in Québec.


NB is the only province that is officially bi-lingual... What's not different about that?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:49 pm
 


Go to New-Brunswick, you will see. There is places where it's english only (most places), there is places where it's french only (where are the Acadians), and there is some places where they can speak both languages but speak english only.

Bilingual province my ass.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:55 pm
 


Well, you must admit that is different than the rest of Canada. It is either English everywhere, or French everywhere.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:59 pm
 


No, Acadians are differents, not New-Brunswick. Do you know who are Acadians ? They are a nation too.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:06 pm
 


People are not a nation.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:18 pm
 


well ask an acadian about that he will tell you if he consider his people as a nation.

Don't forget a people can become a nation when his people recognize hitslef as a nation. That's why the opinion of the Acadians is important, and not yours.

If you can read french, look at this link :
http://www.capacadie.com/chroniquedumon ... un_640.cfm


He was staying for a long time in Québec, and he still doesn't consider himself a Québécois, because he is first an Acadian. (and not a Canadian)


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:22 pm
 


Hahahahaha Of course :lol:

My opinion is that much important, that if I vote, I vote for Canadian government, not for Acadian. Not even if I lived in Louisiana :D :D

PEI, NS and NB are a part of Canada, not a seperate country. Sorry to disappoint ya darlin! ;-)

I am Dutch, I am in Canada for a year now, and I am definitely NOT gonna call myself European. I think he should be ashamed of himself not calling himself Canadian.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:28 pm
 


Well if you're only there since a year, you should be more humble about your opinion of the people that lives in Canada.

You give me an other argument to not consider your opinion.

edit : your there since one year and you can vote ? How possible ?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:38 pm
 


Marc01 Marc01:
Well if you're only there since a year, you should be more humble about your opinion of the people that lives in Canada.

You give me an other argument to not consider your opinion.

edit : your there since one year and you can vote ? How possible ?


I said IF I vote, not WHEN I vote ;-)

And why should I be more humble with my opinion? I think I did more research on Canada than most born here ;-)

I seriously couldn't care less if you consider my opinion valid or not. I don't know if you realize it, but I have the same rights as you do, except for the fact I cannot vote until I am a CANADIAN citizen. Not an Acadian citizen, or a Quebec citizen, but a CANADIAN citizen.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:50 pm
 


You could have red a lot on Canada, why then you didn't knew about Acadia ?

Citizenship is one thing, but your feelings of being part of a nation is something different. I am citizen of Canada, because I have the ability to vote in Canada, but I vote for Québec interests, because I'm a Québec nationalist. Citizenship doesn't equal nationality.

You no more consider yourself Dutch ? Only after one year ? That is surprising. You should understand the problem in Canada because in Belgium, they have an issue there too with the Wallons and the Flamands.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:57 pm
 


Brenda Brenda:
Marc01 Marc01:
nice post Kenmore !

New-Brunswick is not different. Acadians are different. You don't hear them probably because they are not enough to make noise. But their assimilation rate is 8%. That mean, if your born acadian, there is 8% of chances that you will switch to english as your main language during your life. They are in clear danger of being assimilated, it's much more obvious than in Québec.


NB is the only province that is officially bi-lingual... What's not different about that?


Language is only part of ones culture... NB is bilingual yes, due to the population makeup.. Marco01 is right when he talks of Quebec and Acadia totally unique in Canada... lets keep it that way..


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:59 pm
 


You have a hard time reading, don't you... I said I don't consider myself European. Never have either, but with the expension of the EU it is really... terrible.

Who said I didn't know anything about Acadia?

The feeling of being part of a nation is something different than citizenship. Absolutely. Yet, you blame me for feeling to be part of this nation.

Who says I don't understand the problem? But, this topic is about immigration. I didn't follow your french discussion. I stated my opinion on the immigration issue, and the fact that Quebec has different rules than the rest of Canada does.


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