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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:35 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Likewise, Maxine Waters calling for her fanatical followers to stalk and harass Trump staffers is also inexcusable and may end up getting some Democrats shot for their troubles.



Hmm, elected politicians calling to incite violence, is not a good idea.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Those people are criminals and their behavior is inexcusable. Period.




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That should have been your response to my original post rather than suggesting that the right is only responding to violence after being instigated.

Violence or the threats of violence from anyone, right or left, should be condemned.

We all need to be on the same page with this.


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Coach85 Coach85:
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I think Tucker has it dead on when he says the worry is the left is starting to use the "language of violence."


Why don't we worry about the violence from both sides?


Who says we don't? What's happening currently from the left is a standout, increasing trend though and it isn't just coming from the fringes. The endgame of this trend and the increasing calls from power on the left to continue down the road to a more violent conclusion are obvious.

Ignoring the obvious is never a good strategy. The left should notice and admit what's happening right now as opposed to cherry picking incidents from the past to pretend this current trend isn't something special leading to an even more dangerous place.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:33 pm
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Coach85 Coach85:
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
I think Tucker has it dead on when he says the worry is the left is starting to use the "language of violence."


Why don't we worry about the violence from both sides?


Who says we don't? What's happening currently from the left is a standout, increasing trend though and it isn't just coming from the fringes. The endgame of this trend and the increasing calls from power on the left to continue down the road to a more violent conclusion are obvious.

Ignoring the obvious is never a good strategy. The left should notice and admit what's happening right now as opposed to cherry picking incidents from the past to pretend this current trend isn't something special leading to an even more dangerous place.


I don't see you sharing articles or videos about violence from the right. In fact, I think you've defended the actions of a certain individual that ran into a crowd of people. If I'm wrong, my apologies.

The problem is two-sided. People like you that only focus on the actions of one side and fail to address the problems on your own side.

The acts or threats of violence are a standout from BOTH sides, not just the left. Reaction from the right over the Red Hen is just the latest example.

Both sides are guilty of this deplorable behaviour and we need to talk about both and not justify the actions of one side because they fit our political ideals.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:48 pm
 


Funny you should mention Charlottesville because that's an example of how ignoring the obvious can lead to problems.

There were cries in the wilderness of the background long before that day calling out on how the business of allowing leftist mobs to block traffic intersections was going to one day lead to a tragedy and that day it did.

That particular intersection was blocked by a van that refused to move for a quarter of an hour as the bussed-in hord of leftist protesters advanced to turn down it creating a blind alley.

Tragedy. Just as predicted. Yes the fringe ethno-state nutbar screaming down the street in a vehicle deserves what he's going to get in the courts but that all could have been avoided just by listening to the voices of reason with their predictions of the obvious before it happened.

This current trend from the left will also lead to tragedy if allowed to continue.

Diverting from the obvious with cherry picks of events from the past won't help deal with what's happening now.

These are the current calls from the left. It's a mistake to ignore them.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:02 pm
 


Coach85 Coach85:
I don't see you sharing articles or videos about violence from the right.


Feel free to start a topic on this subject and post whatever you want. :wink:


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
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Ah well, it'll be a good day for your type when MAGA strikes back and burns the place to the ground. Should be happening anytime soon.


I see you've made your plans for the weekend. :lol:


If I ever got violent it would only be against the one that deserves it.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:58 pm
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Who says we don't? What's happening currently from the left is a standout, increasing trend though and it isn't just coming from the fringes. The endgame of this trend and the increasing calls from power on the left to continue down the road to a more violent conclusion are obvious.

Ignoring the obvious is never a good strategy. The left should notice and admit what's happening right now as opposed to cherry picking incidents from the past to pretend this current trend isn't something special leading to an even more dangerous place.


Says the guy who says that woman that got run over by a Nazi actually just happened to have a heart attack. Don't be all "we must call out the violence." When it happened, you justified it and supported it.


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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Funny you should mention Charlottesville because that's an example of how ignoring the obvious can lead to problems.


Sorry, that line of thinking is PART OF THE PROBLEM.

You're still trying to place all of blame on the 'leftists'.

Protesting and blocking roads is not something we should expect would result in tragedy. It's just not. This is 2018.

Your partisanship has made you blind. You see one side. You're physcially unable to see both sides of an argument and that's the scary part. You're not even willing to consider it.

There are people like you on both sides and it's what's going to lead to further tragedy.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:57 pm
 


Yes it is the current year. And what I'm talking about is a current trend. It's not a destination we've arrived at it's a path we're starting out down.

And just as surely as if you allow lawless mobs to block intersections eventually somebody is going to run into one this will some day soon lead into the kind of violence that can't be easily stopped if allowed to continue.

"She only wanted to watch a movie about Mister Rogers in peace but Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi soon found herself in physical danger at a Tampa theater where she was ambushed by a leftist hate mob.

The scene of this latest outbreak of fascist thuggery was the historic Tampa Theater where the Sunshine State’s top law enforcement official found herself surround and being heckled after a flash mob quickly assembled. Bondi was insulted, intimidated and even spat at by hooligans before law enforcement personnel arrived to escort her out of harm’s way.
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https://downtrend.com/donn-marten/spitt ... e-theater/

"Meanwhile, a woman said to be a congressional intern yelled, “Mr. President, f--- you,” as Trump walked through the Capitol rotunda. And Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was heckled at a restaurant and at her home by a group led by Allison Hrabar, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America and an employee of the Justice Department.

Hrabar later said that every public official should be targeted for this type of treatment, and that none of them should “have peace.” For some strange reason, this radical bully is still employed by the U.S. government."


"Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., praised the “no peace, no sleep” protests and called for stepping up the confrontations. “Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up, and if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station,” she told a throng of cheering supporters, “you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.

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"A New York University professor compiled and released a list of almost 1600 ICE agents along with the information he culled about them from LinkedIn. Antifa picked this information up and amplified it. Then WikiLeaks did the same thing. We’re now to the point where liberals are okay with harassing people just for the “crime” of trying to enforce the border."

"Professional race hustler Shaun King likes to gin up online rage mobs against “racist” people in his spare time. Sometimes that blows up in his face, like when he accused a white police officer of raping a black woman, only for it to turn out that she made the whole thing up. This time King (among others) asked his hate mob to target a woman who went on a “racist tirade” in a nail salon. A lovely woman with “F*ck Blue Lives” as the header of her Twitter account misidentified Fox 13’s Haley Hinds as the woman they were trying to find from the video. Despite the fact that Hinds didn’t look like the woman in the video, an avalanche of abusive comments and death threats followed. Hinds reached out to the big accounts that had tweeted the video (including King) and the woman who incorrectly identified her and… nothing. Nobody cared that they had helped direct thousands and thousands of ugly and violent comments toward the wrong account."

https://pjmedia.com/trending/7-examples ... ve-become/

"Arrogant and obnoxious celebrities are nothing new, but Peter Fonda’s obscene and insane comments were bad enough that Melania Trump admitted she got the Secret Service involved. This is what he had to say:

WE SHOULD RIP BARRON TRUMP FROM HIS MOTHER’S ARMS AND PUT HIM IN A CAGE WITH PEDOPHILES AND SEE IF MOTHER WILL STAND UP AGAINST THE GIANT ASSHOLE SHE IS MARRIED TO. 90 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE STREETS ON THE SAME WEEKEND IN THE COUNTRY. F*CK
Sounds great. We don’t have to take the agents kids, we only need to surround their schools and scare the shit out of them and worry the f*ck out of the agents from CBE ICE & REGULAR BORDER PATROL AGENTS. WE NEED TO SCARE THE F*CK OUT OF THEM! NEED TO MAKE THEIR CHILDREN WORRY NOW

SS (Sarah Sanders) is a lying g*sh, too. And “g*sh” is much worse than cute. Maybe we should take her children away and deport her to Arkansas, and giving her children to Stephen Goebbels Miller for safe keeping.

After making these comments, Fonda’s Twitter account was not suspended. The movie he has coming out was not pulled. For the most part, he received praise from other liberals for his comments."


https://pjmedia.com/trending/7-examples ... ve-become/

"The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is warning employees of a “sharp increase in the overall number of general threats” against them after a senior DHS official found a headless animal carcass left on his front porch, said an official with knowledge of the incident."

https://dailycaller.com/2018/06/25/deca ... ials-home/


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:59 pm
 


From USA Today:

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But there are some cooler heads. Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., said Red Hen should have served Sanders and blamed Trump for creating a hostile atmosphere. The liberal Washington Post editorialized against Red Hen, arguing that if this sort of behavior becomes normalized then all sides will suffer. “How hard is it to imagine,” the editorial board asked, “people who strongly believe that abortion is murder deciding that judges or other officials who protect abortion rights should not be able to live peaceably with their families?”

If we go down that road, democracy dines in darkness.

Democrats should also understand that these public tantrums and other slights are simply bad politics. Voters don’t respond well to angry chanting losers harassing people, or to vulgar celebrities, or to threats verging on intimidation and violence. There is nothing inspirational about it, and it makes the targets of the anger look that much more reasonable. If Democrats think this crazed behavior will generate a “blue wave” in November, they are mistaken.

It is beneficial to maintain a healthy division between the public and private. Simply having First Amendment rights to hector and insult public figures online or in public doesn’t mean it is a good idea. A return to decorum would be a useful step toward restoring the notion of a personal sphere and promoting a more rational tone in our policy debates. Come on, Democrats, try raising the bar.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:00 pm
 


Coach85 Coach85:
Protesting and blocking roads is not something we should expect would result in tragedy. It's just not. This is 2018.


Get a permit for the protest march and conduct it in safety.

But 'spontaneously' block roads and expressways without a permit and see if I give a shit when someone runs somebody down.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Coach85 Coach85:
Protesting and blocking roads is not something we should expect would result in tragedy. It's just not. This is 2018.


Get a permit for the protest march and conduct it in safety.

But 'spontaneously' block roads and expressways without a permit and see if I give a shit when someone runs somebody down.

So blocking a road is reason enough to run someone over?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:06 pm
 


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Coach85 Coach85:
Protesting and blocking roads is not something we should expect would result in tragedy. It's just not. This is 2018.


Get a permit for the protest march and conduct it in safety.

But 'spontaneously' block roads and expressways without a permit and see if I give a shit when someone runs somebody down.

So blocking a road is reason enough to run someone over?


It is predictable that one day it will happen.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:08 pm
 


And one day the wrong little group of Communist chanters is going to follow the wrong right-winger into the wrong restaurant.

Predictable.


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