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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:37 pm
 


Full title: Missouri House Proposes Jail Time for Feds Violating the 2nd Amendment

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01 ... amendment/

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Missouri conservatives proposed a bill that will punish feds violating the Second Amendment with jail time.

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Introduced by Missouri State Representative Casey Guernsey, with 61 co-sponsors, is the Missouri 2nd Amendment Preservation Act. House Bill 170 (HB170) would nullify any and all federal acts, orders, laws, statutes, rules, or regulations of the federal government on personal firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition.

The bill states, in part:

“Any official, agent, or employee of the federal government who enforces or attempts to enforce any act, order, law, statute, rule, or regulation of the federal government upon a personal firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is owned or manufactured commercially or privately in the state of Missouri and that remains exclusively within the borders of the state of Missouri shall be guilty of a class D felony.”

A class D felony in Missouri carries a prison sentence of up to 4 years.

While a number of states, including Wyoming, South Carolina, Indiana, and others – are looking to go head to head with the feds on specific issues under the 2nd amendment, the Missouri legislation is the strongest introduced anywhere in the country so far.


Looks like a number of states are spoiling for a fight with Obama. No matter how this comes out, 2014 will be an exciting election year, for sure.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:47 pm
 


Oklahoma joins in...

http://www.globalnewsdesk.co.uk/north-a ... ers/03069/

Oklahoma anti-gun control law to jail federal gun controllers for 5 years

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The new gun control measures, publicised by the US President Barack Obama on Wednesday, are likely to encounter sturdy legislative opposition in the state of Oklahoma as the ‘Oklahoma 2nd Amendment Preservation Act’ is moving through the state’s legislature. The ‘Oklahoma 2nd Amendment Preservation Act’ was introduced by the state’s Senator Nathan Dahm. The ‘Oklahoma 2nd Amendment Preservation Act’ threatens to incarcerate, for five years, any federal governmental official, who endeavours to enforce in Oklahoma the new gun control proposals of Barack Obama.

The ‘Oklahoma 2nd Amendment Preservation Act’ places the state, along with Wyoming and Texas, by threatening the imprisonment of federal ‘gun controllers.’


Barack Obama, who had delivered a gun control speech in the White House on Wednesday, had issued 23 ‘gun control’ executive orders, one of which was the termination of a ban on gun-violence research by a federal institution.

President Barack Obama’s gun control measures are unambiguously detested by the ‘Oklahoma 2nd Amendment Preservation Act.’ The Act remarks that federal laws, rules, regulations, orders and registration requirements vis-à-vis firearms constitute a violation on the personal right to keep and bear arms, which is assured by the US Constitution. The Oklahoma anti-gun control Act declares such federal orders as invalid in the state.

The ‘Oklahoma 2nd Amendment Preservation Act’ highlights the objective of America’s founders and of the Constitution’s endorsers, implying that they were in opposition to gun control. The Oklahoma anti-gun control legislation voices that any federal agent or any employee of a corporation, which offers services to the US government, who tries to implement federal ‘gun control’ regulations in Oklahoma, will be regarded as a violator of the ‘Oklahoma 2nd Amendment Preservation Act.’

He/she shall be guilty of perpetrating a felony and will be sentenced to a maximum of five years in jail and will be in the Department of Corrections’ custody.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:19 pm
 


Here's a page on Free Republic which is listing a compendium of all official State-level legislative acts of resistance to proposed Federal gun bans:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2979635/posts

Seems to me that Obama and his minions are about to cross the Rubicon.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:27 pm
 


Maybe some one should get a proper, plain and simple ruling on the 2nd which is in plain as day English and very clear on what it means and not be the like the current SC ruling playing verbal gymnastics to appease the gun nuts and finally put an end to this mess, once and for all.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:33 pm
 


With court history in the United States being what it is I fully expect these latest utterly laughable attempts of states-rights kooks to nullify federal power to be defeated judicially as practically all other nullification efforts of the last hundred and fifty years have been.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:54 pm
 


Stupid heads. You can't pass a law in a state saying that a federal law can't be enforced in that state. That's now how the constitution works. If these states pass these laws, they might as well declare that they're seceding from the US in the next bill they pass.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:15 pm
 


xerxes xerxes:
Stupid heads. You can't pass a law in a state saying that a federal law can't be enforced in that state. That's now how the constitution works. If these states pass these laws, they might as well declare that they're seceding from the US in the next bill they pass.


I'm not sure how it works precisely, but, generally, gun control legislation is a power for state, and not federal governments to handle. Really, the Federal government's power is highly limited in this regard. It's reverse in Canada, where governmental power is more federal heavy compared to the United States.

Plus, generally, it'd be hard to operate without local and state authorities, which translates to any law that a state is not enforcing, like the legalization of weed in some states, even though weed is still classified as illegal by the federal government.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:55 am
 


Do we all forget what happened in the 60's and the re-integration of schools in the South? States refused to apply the laws and the federal government had to come in do the local cops' jobs for them.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:46 am
 


Strange how some people seem to think the Federal Government should come in and tromp all over states rights when it concerns gun laws but, mention them doing the same thing about marijuana and it's let the howling begin. :roll:

Sorry, but you can't have it both ways or you stand the chance of becoming what is refered to in polite society as a hypocrite.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:38 am
 


As a tourist I fully expect I will be issued my favourite weapon at the state line or I ain't visiting. :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:45 am
 


Wada Wada:
As a tourist I fully expect I will be issued my favourite weapon at the state line or I ain't visiting. :wink:


And a bong...


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Favourite weapon, hell, I gotta list :P


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:14 pm
 


xerxes xerxes:
Do we all forget what happened in the 60's and the re-integration of schools in the South? States refused to apply the laws and the federal government had to come in do the local cops' jobs for them.


I think the only way you can get such an event is if you deem the laws in such state as being illegal according to the Supreme Court. Brown v. Board of Education deemed segregation illegal, and thus the states could not enforce a law that goes against the Constitution and the Supreme Court's ruling about the 14th Amendment.

Since, in according to the Supreme Court, prohibiting the purchase of handguns goes against the Second Amendment, any attempt by the Federal government to ban such hand guns would be deemed illegal, since, again, it goes against the Supreme Court's ruling over the Second Amendment.

This would be no different if the Canadian Supreme Court deemed such an action being against the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and yet the federal government attempted such action anyway, even though the Supreme Court said it could not.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:16 pm
 


True, but that's not what's being proposed. Expanded background checks, restrictions on clip sizes aren't exactly preventing people from buying guns at all; just a few certain types. (though I doubt that will pass).

Just once I'd like to see someone ask the NRA why it's a step removed from an American gulag archipelago to have background checks.


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