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Wullu
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:27 pm
Jacques qualified 6th but since he was in the race to get race time and experience he intentionally dropped to the back of the field before the start so as to not influence the race off the start. He raced clean and hard until the last few laps when he rubbed the wall and drove off to the garage in 21st spot after starting 43rd.
This was his first race in the series at probably the fastest and most notorious track on the circuit. I imagine he learned a tonne and after he got comfortable was right in the thick of things, three wide in the turns at 190+ mph.
This was a classy and professional performance from him all around.
So what was the first line in an article from the CBC?
$1: Maybe Canadian Jacques Villeneuve should stick to Formula One.
Granting that NASCAR has everything going against it from a CBC perspective (American, most drivers from the south, fans stereotyped as rednecks), I guess this should probably be the expected response from the morons at CBC.
Story
PS, Jeff Gordon pulled off a master piece of driving and patience to pull out a win.
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Wullu
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:53 pm
Your article was written by AP. The one I linked to was CBC Montreal......
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Wullu
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:07 pm
Aye, but the story you have was written by a guy makes a living out of writing about auto racing for AP. CBC just bought the story. The story I had was listed as CBC Montreal.
I think you may be right. Little sour grapes on their part maybe?
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Wullu
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:21 pm
Did you notice the number on his car?
Very cool of NASCAR to let him use it.
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camerontech
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:23 pm
as a longtime fan of villeneuve I am impressed and glad of this performance. He's embarrassed me a few times but I think this is where he belongs, i look forward to watching him race for a full season next year
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:42 pm
Sorry to say but Villeneuve is not much of stock car driver.
Yea, he was good at one point during the Indy or Champ Car Series.
But he has not done much since then. Plus he has criticized just about anyone in F1, including Schumacher (A much better man than what he ever was).
He is overrated. Ev1 in Qc seems to love this guy (I really don't know why  ) He should ski in Mount Tremblant and run into a tree!
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Wullu
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:23 am
Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski: Sorry to say but Villeneuve is not much of stock car driver. And you can tell this from one Nascar truck race and one Nextel Cup race? Wow. You ought to hire yourself out to the teams. Save them a butt load of cash in driver testing. Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski: Yea, he was good at one point during the Indy or Champ Car Series.
But he has not done much since then. Plus he has criticized just about anyone in F1, including Schumacher (A much better man than what he ever was). An F1 World Championship is not much? Oh, and Schumacher is an ass, a talented one, but an ass none the less. Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski: He is overrated. Ev1 in Qc seems to love this guy (I really don't know why  ) He should ski in Mount Tremblant and run into a tree!
Why do I suspect we have an F1 fan here who does not like that Jacques told it as he saw it about F1?
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:50 am
Wullu Wullu: Oh, and Schumacher is an ass, a talented one, but an ass none the less.
Jacques is still my boy. Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski: Sorry to say but Villeneuve is not much of stock car driver. Yea, he was good at one point during the Indy or Champ Car Series. But he has not done much since then. Plus he has criticized just about anyone in F1, including Schumacher (A much better man than what he ever was). He is overrated. Ev1 in Qc seems to love this guy (I really don't know why  ) He should ski in Mount Tremblant and run into a tree!
Let's have a look at the World championships, shall we?
1994 Michael Schumacher
1995 Michael Schumacher
1996 Damon Hill
1997 Jacques Villeneuve
1998 Mika Häkkinen
1999 Mika Häkkinen
2000 Michael Schumacher
So, Schumacher, while being an incredible driver, did not win the championship for 4 years. And yet, Jacques, Damon and Mika are not given credit for the terriffic years they did have in beating the 'worlds best' driver.
Mario Andretti is considered the best driver ever - yet he only Won the F1 World Championship - once. And the Daytona 500 - once. Jacques has already done THREE of the things Mario has accomplished - Indy 500 Winner, and F1 World Champ, and CART Champ. All he needs to do is win the Daytona 500 to chalk up the same event wins as Mario.
And ONE thing Mario and Schumacher never did - Most wins (4) in his rookie year of F1. That broke the 3 wins by Juan Manuel Fangio and Giuseppe Farina in the 1950 season - something no one has done since!
Jacques is still my boy.
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:13 am
WDHIII WDHIII: He faired well at "Dega (at least in the Nextel race) and I think he'll do us proud once he gets a little more seat time. Hey may even make us forget Trevor Boys 
I think so too. Stock cars/trucks aren't open wheelers. Considerable differences in technique. Dale Earnhardt won his only Daytona 500 when he was 44, and his last NASCAR championship when he was 40. Jacques is only 36, and probably has as much seat time as #03.
I think this move by him at 'Dega was classy. He scored many points with the regular drivers; people he's going to have to race with and against if he going to win. Starting off with hard feelings, or worse crashing and taking a few regulars with him, would have been the wrong move.
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:16 am
I haven't watched a NASCAR race since Dale died. I did see a 'CASCAR' race this summer at the Grand Prix in Edmonton, and it was a lot of fun. I think with Jacques in a seat, I'll actually start watching again.
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:43 am
WDHIII WDHIII: Know the feeling - took me a while to tune in Cart race after Oct 31, 1999. 
Greg Moore. ![Trumpet [trumpet]](./images/smilies/trumpet.gif) Yes, indeed. Mine was May 1, 1994 at IMOLA. Ayrton Senna. I nearly stopped watching F1 then too.
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:52 am
Wullu Wullu: Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski: Sorry to say but Villeneuve is not much of stock car driver. And you can tell this from one Nascar truck race and one Nextel Cup race? Wow. You ought to hire yourself out to the teams. Save them a butt load of cash in driver testing. Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski: Yea, he was good at one point during the Indy or Champ Car Series.
But he has not done much since then. Plus he has criticized just about anyone in F1, including Schumacher (A much better man than what he ever was). An F1 World Championship is not much? Oh, and Schumacher is an ass, a talented one, but an ass none the less. Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski: He is overrated. Ev1 in Qc seems to love this guy (I really don't know why  ) He should ski in Mount Tremblant and run into a tree! Why do I suspect we have an F1 fan here who does not like that Jacques told it as he saw it about F1?
Sorry Wullu,
There was no intent to insult.
All I was trying to say, is that Villeneuve seems to be way overrated. He was good while in Champ Car. Then early in F1. But has not done much since.
He always criticized eveyone expect himself. He always seemed to whine about either the car, the team or something else. It was never him.
He is pretty much a snob. (now, that is only my opinion). A few years ago, the comments that Villeneuve made towards Schumacher were not necessary. He is nothing compared to Schumacher.
And oh, the Mount Tremblant bit  He holds some kind of 24 hour ski competition every winter at the resort.
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:54 pm
WDHIII WDHIII: DrCaleb DrCaleb: WDHIII WDHIII: Know the feeling - took me a while to tune in Cart race after Oct 31, 1999.  Greg Moore. ![Trumpet [trumpet]](./images/smilies/trumpet.gif) Yes, indeed. Mine was May 1, 1994 at IMOLA. Ayrton Senna. I nearly stopped watching F1 then too. The man WAS magic wasnt he? Specially in the rain 
He was. Hamilton reminded me of him this weekend in China. Until he beached it . . . roflmao.
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:07 pm
Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski: Wullu Wullu: Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski: Sorry to say but Villeneuve is not much of stock car driver. And you can tell this from one Nascar truck race and one Nextel Cup race? Wow. You ought to hire yourself out to the teams. Save them a butt load of cash in driver testing. Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski: Yea, he was good at one point during the Indy or Champ Car Series.
But he has not done much since then. Plus he has criticized just about anyone in F1, including Schumacher (A much better man than what he ever was). An F1 World Championship is not much? Oh, and Schumacher is an ass, a talented one, but an ass none the less. Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski: He is overrated. Ev1 in Qc seems to love this guy (I really don't know why  ) He should ski in Mount Tremblant and run into a tree! Why do I suspect we have an F1 fan here who does not like that Jacques told it as he saw it about F1? Sorry Wullu, There was no intent to insult. All I was trying to say, is that Villeneuve seems to be way overrated. He was good while in Champ Car. Then early in F1. But has not done much since. He always criticized eveyone expect himself. He always seemed to whine about either the car, the team or something else. It was never him. He is pretty much a snob. (now, that is only my opinion). A few years ago, the comments that Villeneuve made towards Schumacher were not necessary. He is nothing compared to Schumacher. And oh, the Mount Tremblant bit  He holds some kind of 24 hour ski competition every winter at the resort.
There is something you forgot. For the exception of a couple of years Jacques really only ran F1 as a test driver for BAR and another team that slips my mind. Mr Schumacher on the other had drove for the wealthiest team in F1. Not to say he didn't have talent he drove some incredible races.
Slugger Labbe couldn't believe the amount of information that he was getting from Jacques about the car and a 6th place starting position at the "dega" proves he understands setup and can drive the wheels off of anything you toss him in.
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:16 am
WDHIII WDHIII: DrCaleb DrCaleb: WDHIII WDHIII: DrCaleb DrCaleb: WDHIII WDHIII: Know the feeling - took me a while to tune in Cart race after Oct 31, 1999.  Greg Moore. ![Trumpet [trumpet]](./images/smilies/trumpet.gif) Yes, indeed. Mine was May 1, 1994 at IMOLA. Ayrton Senna. I nearly stopped watching F1 then too. The man WAS magic wasnt he? Specially in the rain  He was. Hamilton reminded me of him this weekend in China. Until he beached it . . . roflmao. That WAS surprising wasnt it? On the entrance to the pits ~ how embarrassing  and with a World Championship in the balance (kinda) too! Then there was, for the lack of a better description and hopefully not interpreted as racist, the "Chinese Firedrill" trying to get him out! Couldnt believe a few of em were actually GRABBING THE TIRES!  That was funny. ROFL Even the announcers were yelling to not touch the tires. But with both rears spinning, is was apparent that car was done for the day. Rookie team mistakes - leaving him out that long on one set of tires. Ahh well. Brazil is going to be a great race! Richard Richard: There is something you forgot. For the exception of a couple of years Jacques really only ran F1 as a test driver for BAR and another team that slips my mind. Mr Schumacher on the other had drove for the wealthiest team in F1. Not to say he didn't have talent he drove some incredible races.
Slugger Labbe couldn't believe the amount of information that he was getting from Jacques about the car and a 6th place starting position at the "dega" proves he understands setup and can drive the wheels off of anything you toss him in.
Jacques left Williams to <b>start</b> BAR (British American Racing) in 1999 and Honda bought them out. Jacques got replaced by Jenson Buttons and test drove for Renault and then moved to Sauber BMW.
He can drive the wheels off a car, can't he!
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