[Zipperfish]

"Woke" is essentially the pre-eminence of identity politics over all else. Really it's the natural extension of the "politically correct" movement that preceded it.

I don't have much time for it. JK Rowling, for example. She's been labelled a TERF. I was seeing the most repugnant things said about her, so I wandered over to her Twitter account to see what she had said. Not much, it turns out. She liked a tweet. She mocked the use of the term "people who menstruate" instead of "women."

That is completely out of whack with the response, which includes, of course, death and rape threats to her and her children. Admittedly, that's the fringe element, but they've been enabled by the vitriol pouring out from the mainstream objectors. These people want her destroyed and erased for expressing her opinion o politics.

The same people complaining about the De Santis book bans want her books banned. They say she's a Nazi, that she should go to jail.

It's completely unhinged from anything she has said.

Identity politics is a important part of politics--equality and security for under-represented groups should concern us. But viewing everything through the prism of identity politics is...well...when all you have is a hammer, all your problem look like nails. And ultimately it's just tiresome

[Scape]

[Strutz]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

"Woke" is essentially the pre-eminence of identity politics over all else. Really it's the natural extension of the "politically correct" movement that preceded it.

I don't have much time for it.

Nor do I. The term "politically correct" was annoying enough but I find "woke" even more annoying and way over-used to the point of being somewhat patronizing.

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

JK Rowling, for example. She's been labelled a TERF. I was seeing the most repugnant things said about her, so I wandered over to her Twitter account to see what she had said. Not much, it turns out. She liked a tweet. She mocked the use of the term "people who menstruate" instead of "women."

It's like the term "pregnant people". FFS only women can get pregnant.

[DrCaleb]

Strutz Strutz:

It's like the term "pregnant people". FFS only women can get pregnant.

But not all women can. 'Woke' is recognizing the difference.

[Thanos]

Woke - it once meant something when black people in the US used it, but then it later got turned into something meaningless when affluent white liberals hijacked it in order to wrongly apply it to anything that upset them, which means they applied it to pretty much everything.

Not surprising at all given that it comes from the same sort of person who, starting in the horror show of the 1960's, began to refer to anyone who disagreed with them a literal Nazi.

[Scape]

Is J.K. Rowling transphobic? Let’s let her speak for herself.

I did a search on JK as well. This was the 1st result.

[raydan]

Wokism has always existed. The difference now is 'Internet over-exposure' and a bunch of village idiots who have access to Facebook and Twitter.

[Scape]

Bingo. As the vox article chronicled she is transmitting in the open and it is all public record. No moral ambiguity she can hide behind here, she just a bigot that refuses to accept others that do not conform to her ideas. The only difference is this used to be something that could be gotten away with plausible deniability and not everyone with a phone could fact check. Now, not so much and Pandora's box is never going to be sealed back up.

[DrCaleb]

Back in the 50's and 60's, the patriarchy thought that a boy born with a tiny penis should just be surgically altered into a pseudo-woman. They thought the embarrassment would be too much, so just let them live as a woman. That causes all sorts of health issues further in the future.

But there are some people who would not consider these people a woman, or when surgically returned, consider them a man. But if you feel for the situation those people are in, and show deference to their situation they are in through no fault of their own, you get labelled as 'woke'. Like it's a bad thing.

[Thanos]

Women concerned for the safety of women from dangerous males = bigots. Check. With this kind of demented thinking now not just in vogue but approaching total dominance it is no longer credible to deny that our society is rapidly dying. And it deserves to die if the people who think this way have been allowed to take control.

[DrCaleb]

Thanos Thanos:

Women concerned for the safety of women from dangerous males = bigots. Check.

. . .wrote no one.

[Thanos]

Scape the revolutionary just wrote it, four posts up. "she (JK Rowling) just a bigot".

Scape Scape:

Bingo. As the vox article chronicled she is transmitting in the open and it is all public record. No moral ambiguity she can hide behind here, she just a bigot that refuses to accept others that do not conform to her ideas. The only difference is this used to be something that could be gotten away with plausible deniability and not everyone with a phone could fact check. Now, not so much and Pandora's box is never going to be sealed back up.

[rickc]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

"Woke" is essentially the pre-eminence of identity politics over all else. Really it's the natural extension of the "politically correct" movement that preceded it.

I don't have much time for it. JK Rowling, for example. She's been labelled a TERF. I was seeing the most repugnant things said about her, so I wandered over to her Twitter account to see what she had said. Not much, it turns out. She liked a tweet. She mocked the use of the term "people who menstruate" instead of "women."

That is completely out of whack with the response, which includes, of course, death and rape threats to her and her children. Admittedly, that's the fringe element, but they've been enabled by the vitriol pouring out from the mainstream objectors. These people want her destroyed and erased for expressing her opinion o politics.

The same people complaining about the De Santis book bans want her books banned. They say she's a Nazi, that she should go to jail.

It's completely unhinged from anything she has said.

Identity politics is a important part of politics--equality and security for under-represented groups should concern us. But viewing everything through the prism of identity politics is...well...when all you have is a hammer, all your problem look like nails. And ultimately it's just tiresome

WOW!!! Where the hell have you been hiding? You may very well be the most sane person on CKA! God knows we need you. Years ago there were many people like you hanging around here. These days you you can count the people who don't take their marching orders from the politburo on one hand. A hand that lost a few fingers in a meat grinder at that. Please post more!!!

[DrCaleb]

Thanos Thanos:

Scape the revolutionary just wrote it, four posts up. "she (JK Rowling) just a bigot".

Scape Scape:

Bingo. As the vox article chronicled she is transmitting in the open and it is all public record. No moral ambiguity she can hide behind here, she just a bigot that refuses to accept others that do not conform to her ideas. The only difference is this used to be something that could be gotten away with plausible deniability and not everyone with a phone could fact check. Now, not so much and Pandora's box is never going to be sealed back up.

No, he cited the Vox article, which states:

$1:

By 2023, her transphobia has become so rampant and constant that it’s difficult to build a completely comprehensive timeline of it. For those attuned to it, she doesn’t have to spell it out every single time; it’s a huge part of her identity.

No, again, no one is calling people bigots because they want to feel safe. They are calling Rowling a bigot because she is writing bitoty things. Much more specific than your generic claim.

[Zipperfish]

Scape Scape:

Is J.K. Rowling transphobic? Let’s let her speak for herself.

I did a search on JK as well. This was the 1st result.

That was my first result as well. That's where I found out that her first transgression was "liking a tweet." I read the rest, and I understand why you can take umbrage with her point of view, but the sheer viciousness of the response, this desire people have to destroy her, is what I have a problem with.

I'm really surprised that the writer of the Vox article never picked up on the fact that the response to JK's transgressions were completely out of line by any reasonable measure.

Like Bud Light sticking a trans person in a marketing campaign. The result of the yahoos: we will make you suffer the torments of Hell forever.