[Toro]

If Harper wins 30+ seats in Quebec - and I'm not saying he will - he will a majority government.

[Pimpbrewski]

Montrealaise Montrealaise:

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

I saw this on the news and laughed my ass off. There is some little detail in particular.





The question is, Who would be the best Canadian PM?

Let's not approach this from a Liberal vs Conservative point of view. Instead look at the 5% for Duceppe in the ROC . This shows that there are some idiots (like separatists) out there, and some of them are even allowed to answer polls and vote. The Bloc or Duceppe will never be the ruling political party in Canada or PM for that matter.

Or maybe they're just shit disturbers that like to intentionally skew pollsters....

BTW, I'm happy about this news as well, I can't stand Gilles Duceppe and look forward to the whole party's permanent retirement, (and I'm a liberal at heart). I would not vote for Stephen Harper, but I think he's doing a pretty good job.

I am approaching this more as a Federalism vs separatism point of view. I do not like the Bloc and consider it useless. This only goes to show that perhaps some Quebecers are finally realizing the uselessness of the Bloc. Although, with all the bias in the QC French media, it's no surprise that there is such support.

Eventhough I am more of a Conservative, I can certainly see your point. I would like to see Harper getting more seat in QC since the CPC best represents my political views. But we all know that Quebec politics is somewhat different, as long as Federalism has its place in this province, it's all cool. Either way, you should check this old thread. http://www.canadaka.net/forums/improve-canada-f19/bloc-quebecois-time-to-dissolve-the-party-t62783.html

[CommanderSock]

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=756713

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OTTAWA -- With a federal election campaign set to get underway within days, a new poll showed the Conservatives and the Liberals statistically tied, setting up a contest that could be determined by which party runs the most effective campaign.

The poll, taken earlier this week exclusively for Canwest News Service and Global National by Ipsos Reid, found that 33% of respondents would vote for the Conservatives and 31% would vote for the Liberals. The margin of error is within three percentage points, which means that both major parties would start a campaign with essentially the same support among the voters.

"These guys are basically tied," said Darrell Bricker, CEO of Ipsos Reid. "At least at the start, this is going to be a very, very tight election campaign."

A key adviser to Prime Minister Stephen Harper told reporters Friday if Mr. Harper does decide in favour of an election, the soonest the campaign would begin would be Tuesday. The adviser said "the first likely window" for a campaign to begin would be Sept. 2 to Sept. 7. If that happens, the first day a vote could be legally held is Oct. 14, the day after Thanksgiving.

The Canadian Jewish Congress sent a letter to Mr. Harper last week asking him to avoid setting an election on Oct. 14, 15, 21, or 22. Those dates are all key parts of the Jewish religious festival, Sukkot. Observant Jews would not be able to work for candidates on election day if the vote were set for Oct. 14.

"We did make the case pretty strongly . . . that these dates should be avoided," said Bernie Farber, executive director of the Canadian Jewish Congress.

Kory Teneycke, the prime minister's chief spokesman, would not speak specifically about Oct. 14 as an election day but said the government does try to be sensitive to religious holidays and observances.

"But in a multicultural country where we are fortunate to have many different religions and many different cultural celebrations, it's sometimes difficult to avoid that in every instance," Mr. Teneycke said.

Before Mr. Harper decides on an election, he has said he wants to meet individually with the leaders of each party to determine if they will co-operate with the government's legislative agenda.

Liberal Leader Stephane Dion said he cannot meet with Mr. Harper until Sept. 9. NDP Leader Jack Layton meets with Mr. Harper Saturday and Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe met with him Friday.

After that meeting, Mr. Duceppe said he believes Mr. Harper wants to go the polls, regardless of what the leaders say.

"He absolutely wants to go to an election, that's my conclusion," Mr. Duceppe said.

The Ipsos Reid poll found that 16% of voters across the country support the NDP and 10% would pick the Green Party. Since Ipsos Reid completed its last poll of voting intentions on Aug. 14, national support for the Conservatives has dropped three percentage points while the Liberals and NDP saw their support grow by one point and two points respectively. Support for the Greens was unchanged.

On the eve of the last general election, which began in late November 2005, the Liberals had the support of 34% of voters compared to 30% for the Conservatives. By the end of that campaign, in early 2006, the Conservatives won 36% of the popular vote and the Liberals finished with 30%.

Earlier this week, Prime Minister Stephen Harper conceded that current polls are not good news for his party and he predicted that a general election now would return a minority government.

"I think Harper's figured it out. It's a game of inches. It's a battle for minorities now," said Mr. Bricker.

For this poll, Ipsos Reid surveyed 1,003 Canadians by telephone from Aug. 26-28. The pollster says that, for the national sample, its results are accurate to within 3.1 percentage points 19 times out of 20. The margin of error for the regional results is higher.

The popularity of each party in different provinces varies so significantly, though, that it would likely have a large effect on the national campaign and the final seat count.

The Liberals have opened up a 12-point lead over the Conservatives in Ontario and have a six-point lead over the Conservatives in Quebec.

"The reality is that if [the Conservatives] are that far behind in Ontario and Quebec, it's going to be a struggle," said Mr. Bricker.

The Conservatives are absolutely dominant in Alberta, and hold significant leads over the Liberals in British Columbia, Saskatchewan and Manitoba.

Earlier this week, some Liberal insiders were talking about scenarios in which they could lose the national popular vote but nonetheless win more seats than the Conservatives and form the government.

This could happen because Conservative support is more concentrated in areas that have already elected Conservative MPs. In Alberta, for example, Ipsos Reid found that 71% of respondents would vote Conservative. A campaign that strengthens that support does nothing for the Conservatives because the party already has all 28 seats in the province.

Liberal support, on the other hand, is more evenly spread out across the country, a phenomenon political scientists described as "more efficient support." Because of that, if the Liberals can boost their support by just a small amount, it pays off with proportionately more seats.

In Quebec, the leading party is the Bloc Quebecois, with the support of 34% of voters followed by the Liberals at 27%, the Conservatives at 21%, the NDP at 10% and the Green Party at eight per cent. Support for the Bloc is unchanged since Aug. 14, while the Liberals gained two points and the Conservatives dropped four percentage points.

Ipsos Reid also asked Canadians if the government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper deserves to be re-elected. While a majority - 48% - said no, a significant number - 44% - said it did. Mr. Bricker looked at the difference between those who say they would vote Conservative - 33% - and those who thinks the Conservatives deserve re-election - 44%- and said that presents an opportunity for Mr. Harper to grow his support.

"There's another 11 points (of survey respondents) supporting other parties or undecideds who are willing to say, I'm going to look at this guy," said Mr. Bricker.

About four in 10 Canadians believe a federal election is needed to break a deadlocked Parliament. That's about the same response the pollster received on Aug. 14. But an increasing number - 57% - now believe Mr. Harper wants an election now because he believes Conservatives will do better at the polls with an early election this fall than one that comes later this fall.

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"On the eve of the last general election, which began in late November 2005, the Liberals had the support of 34% of voters compared to 30% for the Conservatives. By the end of that campaign, in early 2006, the Conservatives won 36% of the popular vote and the Liberals finished with 30%."


it will be Harper vs Dion......

[Montrealaise]

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

Montrealaise Montrealaise:

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

I saw this on the news and laughed my ass off. There is some little detail in particular.





The question is, Who would be the best Canadian PM?

Let's not approach this from a Liberal vs Conservative point of view. Instead look at the 5% for Duceppe in the ROC . This shows that there are some idiots (like separatists) out there, and some of them are even allowed to answer polls and vote. The Bloc or Duceppe will never be the ruling political party in Canada or PM for that matter.

Or maybe they're just shit disturbers that like to intentionally skew pollsters....

BTW, I'm happy about this news as well, I can't stand Gilles Duceppe and look forward to the whole party's permanent retirement, (and I'm a liberal at heart). I would not vote for Stephen Harper, but I think he's doing a pretty good job.

I am approaching this more as a Federalism vs separatism point of view. I do not like the Bloc and consider it useless. This only goes to show that perhaps some Quebecers are finally realizing the uselessness of the Bloc. Although, with all the bias in the QC French media, it's no surprise that there is such support.

Eventhough I am more of a Conservative, I can certainly see your point. I would like to see Harper getting more seat in QC since the CPC best represents my political views. But we all know that Quebec politics is somewhat different, as long as Federalism has its place in this province, it's all cool. Either way, you should check this old thread. http://www.canadaka.net/forums/improve-canada-f19/bloc-quebecois-time-to-dissolve-the-party-t62783.html

I completely agree with you. Federalism over seperatism in Québec anyday with me too. I just happen to be a Stéphane Dion fan (Yeah, I'm the ONE). And he's my MP, how could I not vote for him?

[kenmore]

M.Dion gets my vote.. I have been back and forth with my thoughts , but Harper is such a dork.... some of the tory policies,, like immigration and tough on crime gets my vote but as long as harper is the leader.. the computer says no..

[stokes]

kenmore kenmore:

M.Dion gets my vote.. I have been back and forth with my thoughts , but Harper is such a dork.... some of the tory policies,, like immigration and tough on crime gets my vote but as long as harper is the leader.. the computer says no..

I knew it the computer does your thinking for you...that explains so much

Harper may be a dork but he is a pretty good PM, Dion is so much worse than a dork and I dont trust him to be PM

[Arctic_Menace]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

kenmore kenmore:

Who took that poll? obviously they didnt speak French

Qu'est-ce que fuck?

Bitch, that's my line!!!

[Arctic_Menace]

Hey guys(and girls), what do you think our resident seperatist Marc_01 thinks of all this?

[Pimpbrewski]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

Hey guys(and girls), what do you think our resident seperatist Marc_01 thinks of all this?

A thing to know about separatists is that they only answer at their own convenience. Sort of like only when it fits their own theories.

A Federalist party is making grounds in QC. Also the fact that Duceppe is no longer holding the lead. Separatists cannot accept the fact that it's no longer them running the show in the province.

[Pimpbrewski]

The Bloc should not have to spend any money during this election. There is no need for them to release any political ads inside Quebec.

They have the QC media doing the promotion for them.

Actually was watching TVA this noon, they are so far up the Bloc's ass that it's a complete joke. Considering that the ''pro-péquiste'' media must be upset at the Conservative's lead in the province, they will do anyting to support their own agenda and their buddy Duceppe.

[kenmore]

Who reserected this forum... they obviously dont live in Quebec.. the tory support is improving but they certainly are not leading anyone....

[kenmore]

Toro Toro:

If Harper wins 30+ seats in Quebec - and I'm not saying he will - he will a majority government.

Whats that to-days chuckle...lol...lol..lol...lol

[Elvis]

Hmm let's take a closer look at what is happening in Québec right now



Très interessant comme tendance

Maintenant ce qui me surprend c'est que d'habitude on est inondé de sondage la fin de semaine durant les campagne électoral. Mais cette fois ci ce n'est pas le cas je me demande bien pourquoi?

PS: Pimp essaie de ne pas t'étouffer avec ton café!

[Pimpbrewski]

Ben voyons donc! Ton ami Duceppe profite déjà en masse des contribuables sans meme avoir rien fait pendant qu'il etait à Ottawa.

Continue à regarder TVA pis la ''gang'' de péquistes, Paul Laroque pis la charrogne ooopppps, c'est à dire Claude Charron pour etre mal informé. Malgré cela, tu devrais etre content de voir que tes chums à LCN diffuse ce nouveau sondage qui place les Conservateurs majoritaires. Pis juste pour toé man ! Voila.





http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=hhKeXBgbfAA

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=X71YBM4NfKw