[fifeboy]

hwacker hwacker:

JetBoy JetBoy:

So anyway, back to the subject.

How about that Christian hypocrisy?

Not sexism in the Bible but plenty in the Quran? How about plenty in both?

The subject is muslims that wear their drapes.

I suppose you are also upset by Sihks in turbans, Indians in Braids and Jews in skull caps.

[BurytheNDPforgood]

lily lily:

I don't like them either, Bodah, but she has every right to wear it.

How about having the right to not wear it?

Aah, tolerance is a beautiful thing isn't it?

[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Bodah Bodah:

Today I saw my first fully veiled Muslim women in public with her husband and child in Gatineau, 5 minutes away from Ottawa and it disgusted me to see it.

It reminded me of what I do to meat before I put it in the fridge, cover it up first.

Where's the Status of Women bureaucrats when you need them ?

The reason this is dangerous is because female suicide bombers in burqhas are becoming common in the ME and if you foolishly allow this nonsense then you're inviting these same kinds of attacks.

You should have seen some of the torpedoes I saw hiding behind bikinis on the beach this summer!

I'm sorry, Bart, I'm just not frightened.

[fifeboy]

RUEZ RUEZ:

JetBoy JetBoy:

It's you having troubles getting it, actually. What's in the book is what's taught as the religion. A vast majority of Christian churches teach directly from the Bible as the word of God and the basis of their beliefs. Maybe some don't, but most do.

Bullshit complete bullshit. Can you even speak from experience? Have you been to church? I have, many in fact. Not one church taught us that women were beneath us, or they were property of their husbands. Not one church taught us that women should be silent in church. Nice try, I guess it's true, people hate what they don't understand.

Check out the quote from Jerry Falwell, then google him.

[hwacker]

fifeboy fifeboy:

hwacker hwacker:

JetBoy JetBoy:

So anyway, back to the subject.

How about that Christian hypocrisy?

Not sexism in the Bible but plenty in the Quran? How about plenty in both?

The subject is muslims that wear their drapes.

I suppose you are also upset by Sihks in turbans, Indians in Braids and Jews in skull caps.

Nope, they can look foolish all they want, however i can see thier faces, some which need covering up.

Tell you what, next time you're driving beside a woman with full face veil, pull back a bit and start honking the horn. Post what happens, inquiring minds will be waiting.

And yes I play that game every time I get the chance.

[Bodah]

JetBoy JetBoy:

So anyway, back to the subject.

How about that Christian hypocrisy?

Not sexism in the Bible but plenty in the Quran? How about plenty in both?

I don't give a shit whats in the bible or in the Quran, I do give a shit whats relevant and walking my streets, today... Not what Christians did 1000 years ago. But that's what some of you seem to bring up constantly, the Christian equevilant even if its isn't relevant, if its in the book even if its not practiced any longer or every was doesn't matter were just as bad, bull shit.

Good for you to stand up in defense of some man covering up his meat whe he takes her out in public. I find it fucking ludicrous how the status of women agency, will spend their time attacking local radio stations here because the use the term " nagging wife" in a promo for a contest, or collectively work together to get hooters shut down in ottawa and succeed , but turn a blind fucking eye to this, such strides for women , bravo !!!

Point is we have customs too, its a fact North Americans kids, little kids are scared shitless when they see what they think is boogymen getting off the bus in full black veils and burst into tears, fact.

I worked with a Muslim, he told me that the overwhelming majority of women who wear full veils are married to hard-core fundamentalist husbands and are told to wear them. Even he a Muslim that celebrates Ramadan every year didn't think its appropriate here in North America because with our customs it has the opposite effect for what a burka is intended to do, attaract attention. And this was a pre-911 conversation.

[Scrappy]

Bodah Bodah:

JetBoy JetBoy:

So anyway, back to the subject.

How about that Christian hypocrisy?

Not sexism in the Bible but plenty in the Quran? How about plenty in both?

I don't give a shit whats in the bible or in the Quran, I do give a shit whats relevant and walking my streets, today... Not what Christians did 1000 years ago. But that's what some of you seem to bring up constantly, the Christian equevilant even if its isn't relevant, if its in the book even if its not practiced any longer or every was doesn't matter were just as bad, bull shit.

Good for you to stand up in defense of some man covering up his meat whe he takes her out in public. I find it fucking ludicrous how the status of women agency, will spend their time attacking local radio stations here because the use the term " nagging wife" in a promo for a contest, or collectively work together to get hooters shut down in ottawa and succeed , but turn a blind fucking eye to this, such strides for women , bravo !!!

Point is we have customs too, its a fact North Americans kids, little kids are scared shitless when they see what they think is boogymen getting off the bus in full black veils and burst into tears, fact.

I worked with a Muslim, he told me that the overwhelming majority of women who wear full veils are married to hard-core fundamentalist husbands and are told to wear them. Even he a Muslim that celebrates Ramadan every year didn't think its appropriate here in North America because with our customs it has the opposite effect for what a burka is intended to do, attaract attention. And this was a pre-911 conversation.

Good for you Bodah, speaking your mind on this issue. It is frightening to children but it's also frightening to me. I lived in a building where a quarter of the populace where Muslims, it's scary walking down a dimly lit hallway with them shrouded in black and hissy at you (walking the dog for his pee use to upset the females).

It's not a part of the religion it's part of some Muslim's culture, and frankly the burka should be banned. I can't walk the streets with a belaclava on without getting arrested yet they can have their entire head shrouded with only eye slits. I think it's a public safty issue for several reasons, one they have no periphery vision when they drive. That's why many Islamic countrys forbid them to drive. Number two who's really behind that hood and gown? It's a cleaver disquise for a rapist, isn't it? Number three they can't see sideways (periphery vision again) when they walk and it's up to those around them to accomadate them on sidewalks.

Since September 11 wearing a veil or hyjab isn't enough they now don burkas and I feel like they're giving me a victory sign everytime I see a Burka. A victory for Radical Islam against us in the west.

Feminist spend so much time studing how FGM is okay and it really doesn't harm the little girls and it's a cultural thing and we should be ashamed for not allowing it. We should accomade their culture according to the recent crap I read from a feminist author who's book is due out next week. In short feminist are part of the problem, they never lower themselves to the lowly level of researching on the ground they use academic studies to justify Subjugation of women. Feminist serve no useful purpose other than getting Federal Grants to study how to subjugate their fellow females. They make my skin crawl, nasty little socialist.

[Zipperfish]

Scrappy Scrappy:

Good for you Bodah, speaking your mind on this issue. It is frightening to children but it's also frightening to me.

BOO! Scared ya!

Maybe you're just too easily frightened. Why should the rest of society have to change to pander to your overwrought sensibilities.

[Blue_Nose]

Bodah Bodah:

Good for you to stand up in defense of some man covering up his meat whe he takes her out in public. I find it fucking ludicrous how the status of women agency, will spend their time attacking local radio stations here because the use the term " nagging wife" in a promo for a contest, or collectively work together to get hooters shut down in ottawa and succeed , but turn a blind fucking eye to this, such strides for women , bravo !!!

Next time you meet that Muslim guy you worked with, ask him if he views women as "pieces of meat" - it seems to me that you're the only one that's referring to them as such, and it's disgusting.

Also, for the next time you see a muslim with a burqa on, ask her if it's violating her - you can't seem to grasp the notion that it's a custom that the women agree with - if they don't, there are plenty of Muslims that choose to wear a hijab, or nothing at all.

Bodah Bodah:

Point is we have customs too, its a fact North Americans kids, little kids are scared shitless when they see what they think is boogymen getting off the bus in full black veils and burst into tears, fact.

Perhaps these ignorant little children should be educated on the subject of cultural differences instead of demanding everyone fit their limited impression of the world.

Bodah Bodah:

I worked with a Muslim, he told me that the overwhelming majority of women who wear full veils are married to hard-core fundamentalist husbands and are told to wear them. Even he a Muslim that celebrates Ramadan every year didn't think its appropriate here in North America because with our customs it has the opposite effect for what a burka is intended to do, attaract attention. And this was a pre-911 conversation.

Who are you to declare what agreements between a married couple are acceptable, or what the intent of a piece of clothing should be? How about having at least enough respect for these women to trust them to make their own, personal life decisions when it comes to how they dress, or who they marry?

[hwacker]

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

Perhaps these ignorant little children should be educated on the subject of cultural differences instead of demanding everyone fit their limited impression of the world.

Or maybe these children grow up and close the boarders of Canada because of people like you.

Plays both ways.

[Blue_Nose]

Brenda Brenda:

I am not allowed to ask a question here? Jesus BN, who the hell are you to judge me? BD ASSUMES they are happy wearing a burqa. I ASSUME some of them are not, but are not allowed to take them off.

Plenty of muslims women choose not to wear a burqa.

Brenda Brenda:

I asked before, does anyone really know what they are wearing under the burqa? The clothes underneath are just as western (at least in a western country, what we are talking about here) as mine, or your GFs clothes are. A burqa is nothing more or less than a cover over their "at home" clothes, so no other man then their own could get arroused by their appearance.

They don't wear headscarfs or burqa's at home, UNLESS there is ANOTHER man than their own in the house.

So? You wear your shirt when you're out in public so the men around you won't be aroused. You might wear a set of pajamas when you're at home that you would never wear if you had company over. We all have personal limits that are PERSONAL - nobody else should tell you you're wearing too much clothing.

How would you feel if some nudist told you your clothes were oppressive and demeaning and offensive to him?

[Johnny_Utah]

Bodah Bodah:

Today I saw my first fully veiled Muslim women in public with her husband and child in Gatineau, 5 minutes away from Ottawa and it disgusted me to see it.

It reminded me of what I do to meat before I put it in the fridge, cover it up first.

Where's the Status of Women bureaucrats when you need them ?

She could have nice legs..

[Bodah]

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

Next time you meet that Muslim guy you worked with, ask him if he views women as "pieces of meat" - it seems to me that you're the only one that's referring to them as such, and it's disgusting.

First off, I know the guy i worked with didn't view his wife or women as a pieces of meat, so I don't have to ask him. Second are you trying to suggest that because of this fact based on one muslim living in Canada his religon can't be taken to an extreme ?

Why do things have to be so black and white for you ? This isn't a structual break down of a bridge here. Not very many sociology classes with all of that math in University huh ?

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

Also, for the next time you see a muslim with a burqa on, ask her if it's violating her - you can't seem to grasp the notion that it's a custom that the women agree with - if they don't, there are plenty of Muslims that choose to wear a hijab, or nothing at all.

Some of them do agree with it, but most of them don't, Next time I see a muslim women in a veil I'll do one better than what you suggested, I'll tell her in Canada its customary to not hide your face.

Pretty racist thought huh BN ?

And if the man "escorting" her if should have any problems with me talking to his wife, I'll give him my 5 cents too, Personally I don't have a problem with the hijab.

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

Perhaps these ignorant little children should be educated on the subject of cultural differences instead of demanding everyone fit their limited impression of the world.

Their children BN, I'm talking 3-6 year olds sort or range ? You were a child once weren't you? Ever see anything out of the ordinary that you weren't use too that scared the shit out of your besides mussels and lobster ?

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

Who are you to declare what agreements between a married couple are acceptable, or what the intent of a piece of clothing should be?

I'll tell you who I am .... I'm Batman

[Scrappy]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Scrappy Scrappy:

Good for you Bodah, speaking your mind on this issue. It is frightening to children but it's also frightening to me.

BOO! Scared ya!

Maybe you're just too easily frightened. Why should the rest of society have to change to pander to your overwrought sensibilities.

Not at all I'm sick of assholes like you telling women it's okay to be subjugated based on seven century documents. I'd like to see how brave you'd be if you met a group of men who were dressed in gangsta rap clothing not in Burkas in a dark hallway? Hissing at me for not confirming to their beliefs is demeaning and abusive but carry on because isn't that what pandering to Radicals is all about Zipper. I can be abused and insulted because their MUSLIM and untouchable but that's okay right Zipperhead? Making me confirm to their beliefs but them not integrating with my culture is the cool thang for the left. Shame on you for picking on me for being afraid in MY country of women who hiss and spit because I don't conform to their culture. Welcome to Canada, Zipper you are the problem but you have no solution but pandering to the Radicals. You are a real sexist bastard Zipperless.

[hwacker]

Scrappy Scrappy:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Scrappy Scrappy:

Good for you Bodah, speaking your mind on this issue. It is frightening to children but it's also frightening to me.

BOO! Scared ya!

Maybe you're just too easily frightened. Why should the rest of society have to change to pander to your overwrought sensibilities.

Not at all I'm sick of assholes like you telling women it's okay to be subjugated based on seven century documents. I'd like to see how brave you'd be if you met a group of men who were dressed in gangsta rap clothing not in Burkas in a dark hallway? Hissing at me for not confirming to their beliefs is demeaning and abusive but carry on because isn't that what pandering to Radicals is all about Zipper. I can be abused and insulted because their MUSLIM and untouchable but that's okay right Zipperhead? Making me confirm to their beliefs but them not integrating with my culture is the cool thang for the left. Shame on you for picking on me for being afraid in MY country of women who hiss and spit because I don't conform to their culture. Welcome to Canada, Zipper you are the problem but you have no solution but pandering to the Radicals. You are a real sexist bastard Zipperless.

Next time they hiss at you tell them to go home. And by home I mean back to the sandbox.