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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:27 pm
 


Godz46 Godz46:
Watching the CBC nowadays will have you believe that Canadians are incredibly angry at the US, and consider the US a pariah state.But as usual, the liberal media and the rest of the liberal-left dingbatentia in Canada have the pulse of… some other nation (a nation they can only dream about). A survey just released suggests that Canadians think rather highly of our U.S. friends.

Highlights of the survey:

1. 71% identify the United States as Canada’s closest friend;
2. 67% agree that anti-American statements hurt our ability to resolve disputes with the Americans. (So much for Parrish's self-claim to represent the Canadian majority)
3. Notwithstanding recent trade disputes and media attention, a full 60% of Canadians say they have positive feelings about the U.S., with another 25% citing “somewhat positive” feelings
4. Only 15% - or roughly 1/10 Canadians cite negative attitudes towards the U.S.
5. Only 37% of Canadians aged 18-35 believe “it’s cool these days to dislike Americans."


http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041129/mo115_1.html



For months, Rev, Gonzo, Avro, Comtech and Scape have been hamering guys like me, Vic, Karra, Human, ThirdEye and others for not viewing the US like "the majority of Canadians" Well according to this poll, THEY'RE the ones who are out of mainstream Canada.







Funny though, after all the hamering they always get nailed. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:58 pm
 


There was one crucial stat you forgot, over 2/3 of Canadians still think Bush is bad news for the rest of the world.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:09 pm
 


I just have to say although Bush is a war monger and he is sticking his nose where it def dont belong. I dont agree with much of what bush has done but our country aint that much better really ! Look at our gov they are cutting of programs that are needed and lining their pockets when the people are Well most are living below poverty line!! And no most of those arent on welfare but are working class poor ! Wtf!! I think we should all concentrate on our country befor we worry about what others are doing ! Sorry for this rant but this is my 2 cents


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:06 pm
 


Ipsos-Reid poll: 69% opposed our participation in missile defence

Your argument is what again, your not extreme? You advocate what the majority of Canadians want correct? Looks like a trust issue, I don't buy it. Anti-American is not anti-Bush or anti-globalization. Do you require definitions?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:11 pm
 


Godz, do you live on that computer of yours or do you talk to people out in the real world? Living in BC and working with the general public, I talk to a very vast cross section of people. I know that here in BC MOST people are pretty pissed at the US. With the HUGE loss of jobs caused by the illegal softwood lumber duties the US has inflicted on us, and not paying their gas and hydro bill and not caring if their fisherman whipe out the Pacific Salmon, I can safely say that the US has screwed us every chance they got. Why don't you ask the nations ranchers how they feel about the US. That our beef can't go south cause of ONE cow, but let they've found TWO in the US and nothing has happened about that. Ask yourself why it's taken Georgie boy a few years to thank Canadians for bringing US people into their homes after their flights were diverted because of 9/11, or for any of the help we gave or offered during that time.

The US is a trading partner at best and one that only pays the bills it wants to. If they were a person and that person thought nothing of you and took advantage of you at every turn, would you call that person a friend?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:38 pm
 


Rogue state not terrorist. Albeit by the definition of terrorism Bush can certainly be seen as the major contributor to terrorist activities if you define them as the use of violence against noncombatants for the purpose of achieving a political goal. This is why body counts are not kept in Iraq for the sole purpose of validating this. You drop a 2,000 lbs bomb in a city your going to kill civilians. You might want to ask yourself what went wrong?Now you can excuse the act of violence, but it is still an act of violence. You can say the acts of torture are the acts of a few but it is still a crime and you can say your rebuilding Iraq but you still have the real power and prevent farmers from saving their seeds and hand over the seed market to transnational corporations which can credibly be argued as excessive. 3,000 died on 9/11 yet that price in blood has been paid in full in Afghanistan but the war goes on. Until when? Who must die, what Capitol must be captured, what nation must fall? That is extreme, war without end.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:40 pm
 


Godz poll...sponsored by friends of America

The Global/Leger poll that Godz referred to...discredited for tying non-related issues to BMD.

Meanwhile Georgie is too afraid of Canada to address Parliament the way a real foreign leader would. The small and unthinking Bush is even afraid to meet with all of the party leaders because he is terrified of hearing dissenting views, so Jack Jack sent him a
letter. Wanna bet the cowardly Bush does not even have the balls to respond to it?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:56 pm
 


right on! now if only we could tape bush's eyes open and force him to read that there would be a little more of a chance something will be done....but only a little....


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:15 pm
 


$1:
Mother of god, your still pisssed about THAT?


Godz, there are protocols and speech writers. In the world of international diplomacy...the world George Bush lives in whether you like it or not...things that do not happen by accident. They happen to send messages. We have every right to be pissed about the message that Georgie was sending.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:16 pm
 


check out this link......i think you will enjoy
[url=http://www.kintera.org/atf/cf/{06DAEF0E-9000-4422-B4DA-AFBAA10CAF60}/STRAIGHTTALKHI.ASX]bush straight talk[/url]

this is the url for the site i found it on:
political wire: ferrell is back
(click on the link called "commercial")


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:31 pm
 


Were the 1,000 canadians chosen at random, i assume they were all over 18. Did they have a target group of people they were polling? I guess 1,000 canadians and their opinions could represent all of canadians. Seeing how 300 MP's represent the voices of canadians :?


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