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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:56 am
 


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It'd be interesting what the freshly elected President does in Mexico.


Mexico vows it won't cut a separate trade deal with Trump


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The youngest member of the cabinet — and one of the few with strong left-wing activist credentials — is Luisa Maria Alcalde, a 30-year-old Berkeley graduate who will take over the Labour and Welfare portfolio. She has pledged to help young people find work and supports increasing the minimum wage. Boosting wages in Mexico — particularly in the auto sector — is a key goal of both U.S. and Canadian trade negotiators.
Oh, I get it!
There is a shortage of "Mexicans" with strong left-wing credentials!!

I wonder how she got the job. She must be good!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:38 am
 


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It'd be interesting what the freshly elected President does in Mexico.


Mexico vows it won't cut a separate trade deal with Trump


Andrés Manuel López Obrador is a socialist/communist by both his own admissions in the past and by the official assessments of him by the Mexican government.

I anticipate he may leave NAFTA on his own especially if he doesn't get his way on Mexicans being allowed to emigrate to the US and Canada without any limitations. Granted, this position is attributed to him in a campaign speech but it's also consistent with his comments over the past twenty years in which he has argued that emigration/immigration is a fundamental human right.

That means he believes that people have more of a right to immigrate to a country than that country has a right to control immigration.

Naturally, he's never spoken about changing Mexico's immigration laws which are the most restrictive immigration laws in the entirety of the Americas.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:38 pm
 


CharlesAnthony CharlesAnthony:
Oh, I get it!


No, Charles. No I'm afraid you don't.


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Andrés Manuel López Obrador is a socialist/communist by both his own admissions in the past and by the official assessments of him by the Mexican government.

I anticipate he may leave NAFTA on his own especially if he doesn't get his way on Mexicans being allowed to emigrate to the US and Canada without any limitations. Granted, this position is attributed to him in a campaign speech but it's also consistent with his comments over the past twenty years in which he has argued that emigration/immigration is a fundamental human right.

That means he believes that people have more of a right to immigrate to a country than that country has a right to control immigration.

Naturally, he's never spoken about changing Mexico's immigration laws which are the most restrictive immigration laws in the entirety of the Americas.


Oh, sorry, I wasn't aware it was Make-Shit-Up Day. :lol:


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If Obrador's an extremist himself then his election is merely a natural response by the Mexican people to the extremism that's been levelled against them by Trump since 2015.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Andrés Manuel López Obrador is a socialist/communist by both his own admissions in the past and by the official assessments of him by the Mexican government.

I anticipate he may leave NAFTA on his own especially if he doesn't get his way on Mexicans being allowed to emigrate to the US and Canada without any limitations. Granted, this position is attributed to him in a campaign speech but it's also consistent with his comments over the past twenty years in which he has argued that emigration/immigration is a fundamental human right.

That means he believes that people have more of a right to immigrate to a country than that country has a right to control immigration.

Naturally, he's never spoken about changing Mexico's immigration laws which are the most restrictive immigration laws in the entirety of the Americas.


Oh, sorry, I wasn't aware it was Make-Shit-Up Day. :lol:


First, feel free to read the Wiki on him. They make shit up all the time, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A ... ez_Obrador

Wiki correctly notes that AMLO was a member of the PDR - which is a socialist-left party.

The Atlantic properly cites AMLO as a socialist.

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... nt/564113/

Does he support unfettered emigration?

https://cis.org/Cadman/Taking-Andres-Ma ... r-His-Word

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Closer to home, though, it was López Obrador's reaction to the ongoing U.S. border crisis that raised eyebrows when he was reported by El Universal newspaper to have said "[S]oon, very soon, after the victory of our movement, we will defend migrants from all over the American continent and the world who, by necessity, have to to leave their towns to look for a [better] life in the United States. It is their human right that we are going to defend."


Mexico's immigration laws are summarized by their government here:

https://mexlaw.ca/immigration-law-in-mexico-2/

And here are their laws in action:

https://www.newsweek.com/mexico-immigra ... ump-913744

Oddly, this last article criticizes Trump for saying that Mexico does very little about illegal immigration and then it conveniently illustrates (for me) how strict and militant they are about THEIR southern border.

And Mexico's current ruling party/government, the PRI, has called AMLO a communist.

The man named his kid after Che Guevara so either he admires Guevara's communist politics or Guevara's enlightened methods for killing off his enemies.

Feel free to tell me which it is. [B-o]


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I did read the wiki on him--and it does not reflect anything you said. And I read his platform in the last election. I didn't see a single issue where he could be considered a communist. Your argument seems to be that he's a communist because his political rival called him a communist? Really?

Sorry maybe you didn't make it up. Maybe you just read it all on this right-wing nutty websites you and Fiddy like to frequent.

He's a left-leaning politician in Mexico. Maybe by American standards that makes him a communist. Probably makes Justin Trudeau a Communist too. But the dingbat right in the US is so far gone they probably think Reagan was a communist.

Are you guys still mad that Che and Fidel threw over the US dictator in Havana? If you've ever travelled much in Central and South America they have a somewhat more sophisticated view of Che Guevera than just "Communist." You have to understand the history of the area.

Here is the wiki account of Obrador's platform, that folks can compare to your paranoid screed:

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Domestic policy

He proposes the cancellation of the under-construction New Mexico City International Airport,[14] the conversion of the president's official residence and office complex, Los Pinos, into a cultural center,[167][168] universal healthcare,[169] pledging to sell the presidential aircraft,[170] and has offered to hold referendums on various issues,[171] among them include a performance evaluation halfway through his term during the 2021 legislative elections, (instead of his former proposal of every two years[172]) that would cut his six-year term short if he loses the consultation.[173] He proposes dispersing the cabinet throughout the country's states, with the objective of "promoting development throughout the national territory," while the Presidency, the Secretariat of National Defense, Secretariat of the Navy, the Secretariat of the Interior, Secretariat of Foreign Affairs, and the Secretariat of Finance and Public Credit remain in the capital.[174][175]

Corruption

His chief pledge is to eradicate corruption, though he is vague on how he will achieve that beyond a combination of zero tolerance and personal honesty to sweep it out "from top to bottom like cleaning the stairs."[176] He is willing to allow international organizations to come to Mexico to help investigate cases of corruption and human rights abuses, and is also willing to allow the creation of a body, akin to the CICIG in Guatemala, to help local prosecutors build graft cases.[177] He also proposes to amend an article in the constitution to make it possible to try presidents for corruption.[172]

Energy

López Obrador has had mixed views on the denationalization of oil that was signed into law in 2013. He has called for a referendum over the 2013 energy reform (es) that ended Pemex's monopoly in the oil industry.[15] Rocío Nahle, his top energy adviser, has called for a freeze on future deepwater drilling auctions and a review of contracts with international oil companies.[178] In February 2018, his business adviser, Alfonso Romo, said, "[he] reviewed most of the oil tenders awarded to private drillers and found them to be beneficial for Mexico."[179] He has also pledged ending oil exports in order to focus internally, as well as investing in refineries along with ending the importation of gasoline from the United States,[178][180] saying the nation must recover energy self-sufficiency "as a principle of national security" and should make loss-making state refineries operable and assess biodiesel production.[181] López Obrador has promised no more "gasolinazos" as well as no more hikes in electricity and gas prices.[182]

Education

With his saying, "Becarios sí, sicarios, no" (English: Scholarships, yes; contract killings, no),[183] López Obrador proposes guaranteed schooling and employment to all young people, through universal access to public colleges[13] and intending to offer monthly scholarship money of 2,400 MXN to low-income university students.[184] López Obrador is against the educational reform passed into law in 2013, saying he is against the use of teacher evaluations because it is used as a basis of firing them,[185] saying, "It is an ideological problem of the right, of conservatism, deep down they do not want public education, basically they want education to be privatized, it is the mentality that prevails in these people, I ask them to be serene and if you really want to help improve education, do not polarize or disqualify [the teachers]."[186] He also argues that, "Children go to school without eating and that is not addressed in the so-called education reform."[187]

War on drugs

As the Mexican Drug War dragged on into its 12th year, he reiterated his 2012 presidential run strategy of "Abrazos, no balazos" (English: Hugs, not bullets), arguing that jobs and better wages, especially for younger people and the rural populace, are necessary to combat crime,[188][189] not the use of more military force.[190] He has proposed amnesty for some drug war criminals,[12] for which he would seek the aid of international NGOs, Pope Francis,[191] and UN Secretary-General António Guterres.[177] Héctor Vasconcelos, a former diplomat, said a López Obrador government would gradually pull back the Army and Navy from the streets where they have been engaged.[192] He is willing to establish a truth commission to bring closure to tens of thousands of people exposed to horrific murders and disappearances of their friends and family, such as the 2014 Ayotzinapa kidnapping.[177][193][194]

Economic policy

Described as an adherent to economic nationalism[195] and protectionist based on his economic proposals, he wants the nation to be "self-sufficient" regarding what the people consume through establishing set prices for farming equipment and supplies.[196] He has also argued in favor of doubling both senior citizens' pensions[196] and the nation's minimum wage,[197] which currently stands at 88.40 pesos per day. López Obrador suggested the idea of creating a special zone along Mexico’s northern border with lower value-added taxes, lower rent taxes, and higher wages.[198][199] His advisers also said that the same measures could also be directed at Mexico's southern border and elsewhere to contain migration.[200] He has planned a host of infrastructure projects in partnership with the private sector, especially a rail link across the Isthmus of Tehuantepec, to spark economic growth in Mexico’s economically depressed south.[176] At a major banking conference in March 2018, he made promises not to disrupt economic stability and respect the autonomy of the Bank of Mexico saying, "We will support banks and we won’t confiscate assets. There won’t be expropriations or nationalizations."[201][202]

NAFTA

López Obrador has been a critic of NAFTA, arguing small Mexican corn farmers have been hurt,[203] as well as proposing to defend avocado farmers from agricultural tariffs.[204] He has asked Peña Nieto's administration to postpone the current renegotiation of the agreement, arguing both U.S. President Donald Trump and Peña Nieto do not have a strong, amicable relationship, tainted by a cancelled foreign trip.[205] During the general assembly of the American Chamber of Commerce in Mexico, he said he does not want the agreement cancelled, arguing it is benefits the three member nations.[206] In June 2018, during a presidential debate, he argued that if there is a failure in the NAFTA renegotiation, the domestic economy must be strengthened, arguing, "[it] cannot be fatal for Mexicans, our country has a lot of natural resources, a lot of wealth."[207][208] López Obrador has argued in favor of increasing workers' salaries "because wages in our country are very low, they are the lowest wages in the world and we need to strengthen the domestic market and this is to improve the income of workers; you can not be paying the workers of the maquilas 800 pesos a week."[209]

Fiscal policy

Arguing he would be fiscally conservative[210] he intends on raising social spending,[211] without tax hikes nor accumulation of public debt,[181][212][213][214][215] via proposed austerity measures on politicians' salaries, including the president's salary and post-presidential pension.[192][216]

Foreign policy

Following accusations that his campaign was influenced by Venezuela's government and that he was a mirror image of Donald Trump, López Obrador stated, "No Chavismo, no Trumpismo; yes to Juarismo, yes to Maderismo, yes to Cardenismo, yes to Mexicanismo."[217] During a presidential debate, López Obrador argued that "the best foreign policy is domestic policy," arguing that Mexico's foreign policy is dysfunctional as it does not have "moral authority."[218] He has campaigned on Mexico's former foreign policy of non-interventionism, that was practiced from the 1930s to 2000s. During his presidential election victory speech, he stated, "We will be friends of all the world’s people and governments. The principles of non-intervention, self-determination and the peaceful settlement of disputes will be applied again."[219]

Immigration

As Donald Trump accused Mexican illegal immigrants of "bringing drugs [and] crime" during his 2015 campaign, López Obrador has taken a stance against Trump's proposals for the wall on the U.S.-Mexico border as well as the deportation of undocumented immigrants in the United States. In 2017, he called on the current administration to "[present] a lawsuit at the United Nations against the U.S. government for violation of human rights and racial discrimination."[220] He promised to convert the 50 Mexican consulates in the United States into "procurators" for the defense of migrants, suggested appointing Alicia Bárcena, current Executive Secretary of the United Nations Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean, as Mexico's permanent representative to the UN, and pledged to put pressure on the United States through organizations like the United Nations. He accused the establishment parties of the corruption that keeps migrants from receiving the support they need.[221] Regarding migration to Mexico, he asserted his government would not "continue the dirty work" of the United States and detain Central American migrants at the country's southern border. Following his proposed idea of decentralizing the nation's cabinet away from Mexico City, he would move the National Institute of Migration to Tijuana, Baja California. He suggested that the NAFTA negotiations be used to put together a development plan for Central America as a means to address emigration in the region,[221] including a proposed "alliance for progress" including Mexico, the United States, Canada and Central America to foster job creation, grow the economy and pacify the region.[222] López Obrador said he wants to broker a deal with President Trump to stem illegal immigration through jobs and development rather than a border wall.[223] López Obrador's pick for the proposed reestablishment of the Secretariat of Public Security, Alfonso Durazo, declared in July 2018 that there are plans in order to create a border police that would mainly patrol Mexico's southern border to halt illegal immigration, drugs, and weapons.[224]


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Andrés Manuel López Obrador is a Commie. The future will tell the tale.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:23 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
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It'd be interesting what the freshly elected President does in Mexico.


Mexico vows it won't cut a separate trade deal with Trump


And yet, as you inserted that - Mexico was in fact, negotiating its own NAFTA deal with this incredible non-stop constantly on-going and winning DJT administration the like of which has never ever been seen before.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/07/26/u-s-t-r-robert-lighthizer-u-s-closing-in-on-nafta-agreement-with-mexico-meanwhile-canada-is-useless/

And yes, I realize you simply posted a link, hence 'inserted'.


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American political perceptions seems to have been formed by being that kid stuck in the corner of the classroom their whole life. Anything four inches from the corner is beyond their peripheral vision and therefore liberal socialist.
The cockroach in the crack of the corner is the good guy.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:38 am
 


karra karra:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Tricks Tricks:
It'd be interesting what the freshly elected President does in Mexico.


Mexico vows it won't cut a separate trade deal with Trump


And yet, as you inserted that - Mexico was in fact, negotiating its own NAFTA deal with this incredible non-stop constantly on-going and winning DJT administration the like of which has never ever been seen before.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/07/26/u-s-t-r-robert-lighthizer-u-s-closing-in-on-nafta-agreement-with-mexico-meanwhile-canada-is-useless/

And yes, I realize you simply posted a link, hence 'inserted'.


That's an interesting skew on reality, considering every real news organization I read says Mexico is committed to a three way pact on NAFTA.


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That's an interesting skew on reality, considering every real news organization I read says Mexico is committed to a three way pact on NAFTA.


See?

There you go again - typing something, saying nothing - c'mon, be a proper dude, dude - spit it out or provide link(s)

'skew' - do tell

'considering every real news organization' - lol, thanks for the early morning laugh rather than rain














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American political perceptions seems to have been formed by being that kid stuck in the corner of the classroom their whole life. Anything four inches from the corner is beyond their peripheral vision and therefore liberal socialist.
The cockroach in the crack of the corner is the good guy.


Yikes!!!

Shades of the insane Left's love affair with Noam The Chompsky and its Libertarian Socialists :lol:


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karra karra:
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That's an interesting skew on reality, considering every real news organization I read says Mexico is committed to a three way pact on NAFTA.


See?

There you go again - typing something, saying nothing - c'mon, be a proper dude, dude - spit it out or provide link(s)

'skew' - do tell

'considering every real news organization' - lol, thanks for the early morning laugh rather than rain



Did your subscription to Google expire? Why should I do your homework for you?


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