[tayson]

It had a good run. Think its time for it to be canceled! Don't feel bad for the actors they are way over paid for what they do.

[Dayseed]

Bah, the actors should stick to their guns on this one. Why take an unnecessary pay cut? Is The Simpsons losing money in addition to respect, viewers and legacy?

[Bacardi4206]

Brenda Brenda:

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Tricks Tricks:

"small percentage" We'd be talking like .02 percent. Sounds reasonable to me.

You know it's .02 for certon do you? Small percentage is more like 1-3. With a billions of dollars worth of venue. That's still a lot of money. Either way they'd be the highest paid voice actors on TV.

They offered $8M/yr, they paid $8M/yr, and now the actors should take a 45% pay cut?

Would YOU (in general) take a 45% pay cut?? Why should they??

It is one of the best earning shows too, so why wouldn't they pay their voice actors a lot?
Just because it is more than you or I make in our life time (just assuming here ) doesn't mean they can't. If you are bitching about the fact they make $8M/yr and not even work 6 months out of that year, you should have been bitching years ago.

No one would accept a 45% pay cut.

So if the show starts not making as much money, doesn't by your logic give them the right to reduce the actors paychecks? Just refering to "It is one of the best earning shows too, so why wouldn't they pay their voice actors a lot?"

[Brenda]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Brenda Brenda:

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

You know it's .02 for certon do you? Small percentage is more like 1-3. With a billions of dollars worth of venue. That's still a lot of money. Either way they'd be the highest paid voice actors on TV.

They offered $8M/yr, they paid $8M/yr, and now the actors should take a 45% pay cut?

Would YOU (in general) take a 45% pay cut?? Why should they??

It is one of the best earning shows too, so why wouldn't they pay their voice actors a lot?
Just because it is more than you or I make in our life time (just assuming here ) doesn't mean they can't. If you are bitching about the fact they make $8M/yr and not even work 6 months out of that year, you should have been bitching years ago.

No one would accept a 45% pay cut.

So if the show starts not making as much money, doesn't by your logic give them the right to reduce the actors paychecks? Just refering to "It is one of the best earning shows too, so why wouldn't they pay their voice actors a lot?"

It doesn't say anywhere that the show is not making as much money. It is saying FOX wants to cut production costs, by cutting the voice actors salary in half.
They come back with a 35% pay cut offer and a share in profit of merchandise, which could be 0. But, that is not good enough for FOX. And you defend that?

[Bacardi4206]

Brenda Brenda:

It doesn't say anywhere that the show is not making as much money. It is saying FOX wants to cut production costs, by cutting the voice actors salary in half.
They come back with a 35% pay cut offer and a share in profit of merchandise, which could be 0. But, that is not good enough for FOX. And you defend that?

Do I defend fox? No, do I care if some voice actor gets his 8 million downgraded to 4 million, no.

[Brenda]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Brenda Brenda:

It doesn't say anywhere that the show is not making as much money. It is saying FOX wants to cut production costs, by cutting the voice actors salary in half.
They come back with a 35% pay cut offer and a share in profit of merchandise, which could be 0. But, that is not good enough for FOX. And you defend that?

Do I defend fox? No, do I care if some voice actor gets his 8 million downgraded to 4 million, no.

Then why are you mentioning that "FOX is not making as much on that show as they used to", which is a massive assumption.

To me, it is the principle of the matter. Apparently, a company can cut a salary by 45% because they want to cut production cost. And then they say "it is my way or the highway".
That's a nice thing to look at when you make $20/hr. Cut 50% and you can foreclose your house within a year.

[Bacardi4206]

Brenda Brenda:

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Brenda Brenda:

It doesn't say anywhere that the show is not making as much money. It is saying FOX wants to cut production costs, by cutting the voice actors salary in half.
They come back with a 35% pay cut offer and a share in profit of merchandise, which could be 0. But, that is not good enough for FOX. And you defend that?

Do I defend fox? No, do I care if some voice actor gets his 8 million downgraded to 4 million, no.

Then why are you mentioning that "FOX is not making as much on that show as they used to", which is a massive assumption.

To me, it is the principle of the matter. Apparently, a company can cut a salary by 45% because they want to cut production cost. And then they say "it is my way or the highway".
That's a nice thing to look at when you make $20/hr. Cut 50% and you can foreclose your house within a year.

Yeah because I said that as a fact, not a example right? You were talking about paying the voice actors high salerys for when the show made a lot of money. I was saying than shouldn't the voice actors make less money for when the show did badly. As that diddn't make any sense to me. I never said the show was doing badly. Try not and take things too seriously.

[Brenda]

FOX offered them that salary, they paid it too. It was never stated the show is doing worse, only that FOX wants to cut production costs. Why should they accept it? And, why does FOX not accept their counter offer, but yells "it's my way or the highway"?

Apparently, when things go ok, offering a high salary is not a problem. When things still go ok, cutting it in half is ok too? Nah.

[Bacardi4206]

Brenda Brenda:

FOX offered them that salary, they paid it too. It was never stated the show is doing worse, only that FOX wants to cut production costs. Why should they accept it? And, why does FOX not accept their counter offer, but yells "it's my way or the highway"?

Apparently, when things go ok, offering a high salary is not a problem. When things still go ok, cutting it in half is ok too? Nah.

Never did I say the show was doing worse, which is what I am frankly confused about. Though since we are on the subject, apparently the show isn't doing what it use do money wise if Fox is looking at cutting production costs. The Simpsons voice actors are one of the highest paid voice actors in the buisness. 8 million for doing some voice acting for some weeks, add that over the many years they've done voice acting for simpsons and they are some very rich people.

You are argueing that just because fox is cutting there salery that somehow they are the victims. You cut 8 million away to 4 million or even 3 million and they are still highly paid voice actors. Just paid more into the norm of other what other voice actors get. To me, they have been spoiled salery wise and now that Fox wants to reduce to salery they are crying and throwing a tantrum. Sorry but if you want me to feel sorry for these rich voice actors getting there fat salery reduced you aren't going to get that. Somehow Brenda, I think they'll manage money wise with there salery reduction. I don't think they'll be visiting any soup kitchens anytime in the near future.

If fox is simply taking away there salery and giving it to the CEO's than sure, that is some bullshit but nobody mentioned that in the article.

[Brenda]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Brenda Brenda:

FOX offered them that salary, they paid it too. It was never stated the show is doing worse, only that FOX wants to cut production costs. Why should they accept it? And, why does FOX not accept their counter offer, but yells "it's my way or the highway"?

Apparently, when things go ok, offering a high salary is not a problem. When things still go ok, cutting it in half is ok too? Nah.

Never did I say the show was doing worse, which is what I am frankly confused about. Though since we are on the subject, apparently the show isn't doing what it use do money wise if Fox is looking at cutting production costs. The Simpsons voice actors are one of the highest paid voice actors in the buisness. 8 million for doing some voice acting for some weeks, add that over the many years they've done voice acting for simpsons and they are some very rich people.

And?

$1:

You are argueing that just because fox is cutting there salery that somehow they are the victims. You cut 8 million away to 4 million or even 3 million and they are still highly paid voice actors. Just paid more into the norm of other what other voice actors get. To me, they have been spoiled salery wise and now that Fox wants to reduce to salery they are crying and throwing a tantrum. Sorry but if you want me to feel sorry for these rich voice actors getting there fat salery reduced you aren't going to get that. Somehow Brenda, I think they'll manage money wise with there salery reduction. I don't think they'll be visiting any soup kitchens anytime in the near future.

Not the point.

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If fox is simply taking away there salery and giving it to the CEO's than sure, that is some bullshit but nobody mentioned that in the article.

Does it matter where it is going to? They SAY to cut production costs, but it amazes me that they are willing to pull the plug if they do not get their way. Which makes it not about cutting production costs to keep it (highly) profitable, but for another reason...

[Strutz]

I stopped watching "current" episodes years ago. I don't even watch the reruns anymore. There is always something else less crappy to watch if I'm that into watching TV, which I don't do much of anyway.

It had it's time and all shows come to an end at some point. I'm surprised it lasted this long.

[rickc]

Let me see if I have this straight. Some people sit on their asses speaking into a microphone a few weeks out of a year, and they earn 8 million dollars a year for that. 8 million! No Phd. required, no 8 years of college and the hundreds of thousands of dollars of student loans to repay that go with it. They are not revolutionizing technology, or changing the way we live.They are not finding cures for diseases, preventing hunger, stopping wars, stopping injustice, fighting for human rights,etc. etc. They sit on their asses and speak into a michrophone a few weeks out of a year. But because they are opposing the evil FOX TV network, they DESERVE the money. They are entiteled to it! Fight the good fight guys. Stand up to to the evil capitalistic pigs that are seeking to enslave the common man. Cesar Chavez would be proud. NOT!

These dipshits get paid 8 million a year for fucking off a few weeks out of a year, and now they are the darlings of the left? Yet Joe the plumber [who actually WORKS 50 weeks a year ] is an asshole for not wanting to give more of his HARDEARNED money to the government to spend on $16 muffins, $1000 toilet seats, or multi million dollar bridges to nowhere. He is the bad guy here? Really? http://www.aflcio.org/corporatewatch/pa ... y_2011.cfm This link is from the aflcio. It is complaining about the high wages of CEOS. This list shows the average salaries of ceos by industry. The average is slightly over 4 and a half million dollars a year. Every industry average on this list falls below 8 million a year, except tobacco.[ Check out the averages for banking and stocks, they would love to be making 8 million a year] If we were discussing CEO pay on this forum, the left would be up in arms about how unfair the CEO pay is. Their pay needs to be reigned in. Yet most of these CEOS actually work 50 weeks a year.They put in long hours,and live very stressful lives. Some young gun is always looking to knock them off of their pedestal. Most of these CEOS would love to be making 8 million a year for working a few weeks a year. The left loves to bitch about how unfair the pay for CEOS is, but they seem to have no problem with a bunch of leftwingers making 8 million a year for working [if you can call it that] a few weeks out of a year. I wonder how loud this outcry from the left would be if these people were employed by a left wing org. like MSNBC or the CBC.

I did not even know the Simpsons was still on tv. I thought it ended in the 90's. I know for a fact that there are a lot of great impersonators that could probaly replace the whole cast and would be happy to do it for 1 million Dollars or less a year. Thats capitalism! I have been outsourced and downsized from countless jobs in my lifetime. I will probaly never see 8 million Dollars at one time in my lifetime. Its impossible for me to feel sorry for these dipshits not wanting to make 4 million for sitting on their asses a few weeks out of a year. Fuck em!

[Brenda]

So a boss offers a voice actor 8 million. Who is the dumbass? The boss or the voice actor for taking it?

God, you people are so stupid.

[Bacardi4206]

Brenda Brenda:

So a boss offers a voice actor 8 million. Who is the dumbass? The boss or the voice actor for taking it?

God, you people are so stupid.

Nobody is calling the voice actors a dumbass for taking 8 million, anybody would take that. What is being said Brenda which you are not getting is that 8 million is a lot of money for what they do. They were the highest paid voice actors in existance apparently. The fact they get that reduced doesn't make them victims. It makes them normal paid voice actors. The only thing being said Brenda is we don't give two shits if they get there paychecks reduced as they are not victims. Despite being treated as such apparently. I don't blame them for wanting to keep that paycheck, neither do I blame them for wanting apart of the merchandise sales so they'll accept the decreased paycheck. Only thing I'd argue about them is if they try to make themselves out to be victims like you're doing.

[Brenda]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Brenda Brenda:

So a boss offers a voice actor 8 million. Who is the dumbass? The boss or the voice actor for taking it?

God, you people are so stupid.

Nobody is calling the voice actors a dumbass for taking 8 million, anybody would take that. What is being said Brenda which you are not getting is that 8 million is a lot of money for what they do. They were the highest paid voice actors in existance apparently. The fact they get that reduced doesn't make them victims. It makes them normal paid voice actors. The only thing being said Brenda is we don't give two shits if they get there paychecks reduced as they are not victims. Despite being treated as such apparently. I don't blame them for wanting to keep that paycheck, neither do I blame them for wanting apart of the merchandise sales so they'll accept the decreased paycheck. Only thing I'd argue about them is if they try to make themselves out to be victims like you're doing.

What you are failing to understand that everyone gets paid what they are worth. Apparently, they were worth 8 million. That YOU think that is a WAY overpaid does not mean their boss thought so.
They paid it, and now they want to cut it in half. NO ONE would accept it. Why should they? I'm not saying they are victims at all. They came with a good counter offer, but FOX rather pulls the plug than even consider it.
FOX is bullshitting, and bullying them into submission. I guess you failed to see that part.