[Proculation]

Hyack Hyack:

CrazyNewfie CrazyNewfie:

The planets orbit the sun, and in turn our solar system orbits a gigantic black hole.

Could you supply more info on this please or do you mean there is possibly a Black Hole at the center of our galaxy?

There's a black hole at the center of our galaxy.

Wikipedia Wikipedia:

The Galactic Center is the rotational center of the Milky Way galaxy. It is located at a distance of 8.33±0.35 kpc (~27,000±1,000 ly) from the Earth[1][2][3][4][5] in the direction of the constellations Sagittarius, Ophiuchus, and Scorpius where the Milky Way appears brightest. It is believed that there is a supermassive black hole at the Galactic Center of the Milky Way.[6]

[BartSimpson]

Hyack Hyack:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

So here is the Bible According to Birds: http://www.junglewalk.com/sound/sparrows-sounds.htm

Great site Bart, thanks for the link...

You are most welcome!

On my old XP computer I converted the sound files to .wav and substituted them for the boring Windows sound scheme. Drove some of my coworkers crazy!

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

Like those people who would rather die in roman hands than renouce their Christian faith.

More Christians and Believers lost their lives to butchering Trinitarians trying to erase Christ's message, than ever died at the hands of the pagan Romans

[ShepherdsDog]

Proculation Proculation:

Hyack Hyack:

CrazyNewfie CrazyNewfie:

The planets orbit the sun, and in turn our solar system orbits a gigantic black hole.

Could you supply more info on this please or do you mean there is possibly a Black Hole at the center of our galaxy?

There's a black hole at the center of our galaxy.

Wikipedia Wikipedia:

The Galactic Center is the rotational center of the Milky Way galaxy. It is located at a distance of 8.33±0.35 kpc (~27,000±1,000 ly) from the Earth[1][2][3][4][5] in the direction of the constellations Sagittarius, Ophiuchus, and Scorpius where the Milky Way appears brightest. It is believed that there is a supermassive black hole at the Galactic Center of the Milky Way.[6]

Muse even did a song about it.

[desertdude]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

Like those people who would rather die in roman hands than renouce their Christian faith.

More Christians and Believers lost their lives to butchering Trinitarians trying to erase Christ's message, than ever died at the hands of the pagan Romans

Actually I was thinking about that saint who was fed to the lions or something in gladiators games, or something along that line, couldn't remember the name so gave that reference.

Although I didn't know about the trinitarians bit either, you know, me and history.

[Hyack]

Proculation Proculation:

Hyack Hyack:

CrazyNewfie CrazyNewfie:

The planets orbit the sun, and in turn our solar system orbits a gigantic black hole.

Could you supply more info on this please or do you mean there is possibly a Black Hole at the center of our galaxy?

There's a black hole at the center of our galaxy.

Wikipedia Wikipedia:

The Galactic Center is the rotational center of the Milky Way galaxy. It is located at a distance of 8.33±0.35 kpc (~27,000±1,000 ly) from the Earth[1][2][3][4][5] in the direction of the constellations Sagittarius, Ophiuchus, and Scorpius where the Milky Way appears brightest. It is believed that there is a supermassive black hole at the Galactic Center of the Milky Way.[6]

From your own "proof", Wikipedia.... which I always take with a very large grain of salt. "It is believed that there is a supermassive black hole at the Galactic Center of the Milky Way"

Be that as it may, there is a vast difference of probably a couple of hundred thousand light years between our solar system orbiting a Black Hole and there being one near the center of our galaxy around which the Milky Way rotates.

[Bacardi4206]

Unsound Unsound:

CrazyNewfie CrazyNewfie:

Is that the same church who are responsible for more wars and killing in this world then anything else? It just dumbfounds (but not surprises) me how ignorant and stupid people can be.

So... the catholic church is responsible for more death and misery than Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc?

You name one war that was started by religion and Hitler would have beated it in a heartbeat. You add all religious wars together though and they beat Hitler in a heartbeat. I also bet it was Hitlers own religious ideology that sparked him to massacre Jews. Seperated from his belief that Germany should rule the world. I can't recall one time period where things were gravy under religious rule. Even today, religious ideology sparks a ton of a conflicts. Genocide in Africa, Islamic Terrorist groups, Christian Terrorist groups (if they still exist). The middle-east has always had tension between Jews, Christians and Muslims.

[GreenTiger]

I would put the Catholics will holding that Galileo was wrong with the same right wing Christian fatheads that swore the all human would end a couple of months ago. Time for all of them to get their heads out of their ass.

[commanderkai]

CrazyNewfie CrazyNewfie:

Is that the same church that was responsible for burning 10's of thousands (some think millions) of innocent women at the stake because they were "witches"? Is that the same church who are responsible for more wars and killing in this world then anything else? It just dumbfounds (but not surprises) me how ignorant and stupid people can be.

How the hell can the Catholic Church be held responsible for more killing in human history compared to anything else? Most religious warfare in human history occurred when the human population was less than 500 million people, and most of those were out of the Catholic Church's influence. It'd be extremely difficult to reach death levels that can even come close to Mao or Stalin's wholesome slaughters of their respective population during the Catholic Church's ability to influence European affairs.

[DanSC]

commanderkai commanderkai:

How the hell can the Catholic Church be held responsible for more killing in human history compared to anything else?

Shhh. Everyone knows Genghis Kahn was Catholic.

[ShepherdsDog]

Men like Stalin, Mao and Hitler only paid lip service to beliefs or political systems they all worshipped at the temple of ego. Everything they did, they did in their own name.

[PostFactum]

They'll even say that shit is delicious for making some noise around church. I was never thinking that church will use some kind of easy black PR. Now they do it, times are changing.

[Zipperfish]

Galileo was wrong. By the time he came around teh Catholic Church had already resiegned itself, inwardly, to a heliocentric model. I'm sure tehre were still a few deniers left--like there are for AGW--but all the big thinkers had had about 100 years, since Copernicus, to think about it.

Galileo's mistake was the assumption of a preordained clockwork universe. This is what the pope reallly took ofeence too. "Where is there room for God in such a universe?" he said (to paraphrase). And it appears the Church was more correct in this instance, at least by today's stanard, with Godel's Incompleteness Theorem, Heisenberg's Uncertianty Principle, chaos theory, etc.

[Guy_Fawkes]

[Macguyver]

Unsound Unsound:

CrazyNewfie CrazyNewfie:

Is that the same church who are responsible for more wars and killing in this world then anything else? It just dumbfounds (but not surprises) me how ignorant and stupid people can be.

So... the catholic church is responsible for more death and misery than Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc?

Apparently someone has counted 809 million deaths from religious wars. Now I didn't look much further but I suspect the Catholics, being righteous and trigger happy, have to account for a big chunk of that.

I did look into the link a little and someone must have done more research cause the figures have to be collected individually from links on the page second, which don't really work.

But I think that it is probable, that over the last 2000 years, the accumulated death toll as a direct result of the Catholic Church is in the hundreds of millions.

http://bookrate.wordpress.com/2006/07/22/deaths-over-history-religious-vs-nonreligous/

These are not my views, I happen the believe that, religious or not, wars and killings are more often due to money, greed and power struggle rather than religion, when boiled down to its core. It is more likely that the rich Catholic Church undertook the crusades to get more money and influence around the globe rather than to “spread the word of god” – though that was the excuse that convinced the warriors to fight for the church, and the same excuse for which the population supported those events.