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Posts: 1331
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:50 am
Who is the the greatest military commander??
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:14 am
Personally I'd pick Hannibal. He conquered spain, fought a long drawn out 10 year campaign on another countries soil with no assistance and would likely have won if his government hadn't stopped sending reinforcements and supplies.
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Posts: 23084
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:43 am
Frankly, the question is too vague.
Temujin (Genghis Khan) conquered most of Asia, the Middle East and parts of Europe, but does he compare to Napoleon, who conquered most of Europe? Or what about Alexander the Great? He personally led his troops in conquering most of the Middle East and defeated a Persian Army many times his own.
Where does someone like Rommel/Patton fit in? They might not have conquered huge parts of the world, but were extremely influential in campaigns they fought in. Where does Eisenhower fit in? After all, he commanded the largest naval invasion in history.
I think it needs to be broken down into historical periods, maybe something like this;
Ancient - before 1 AD
Dark Ages - 1 AD - 800 AD
Middle Ages 800 AD - 1600 AD
Modern Era 1600 AD - Present
Or something along those lines...
My votes would be;
Ancient - Alexander the Great
Dark Ages - Attila the Hun
Middle Ages - Temujin
Modern - Napoleon
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Posts: 1331
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:56 am
bootlegga bootlegga: Frankly, the question is too vague.
Temujin (Genghis Khan) conquered most of Asia, the Middle East and parts of Europe, but does he compare to Napoleon, who conquered most of Europe? Or what about Alexander the Great? He personally led his troops in conquering most of the Middle East and defeated a Persian Army many times his own.
Where does someone like Rommel/Patton fit in? They might not have conquered huge parts of the world, but were extremely influential in campaigns they fought in. Where does Eisenhower fit in? After all, he commanded the largest naval invasion in history.
I think it needs to be broken down into historical periods, maybe something like this;
Ancient - before 1 AD
Dark Ages - 1 AD - 800 AD
Middle Ages 800 AD - 1600 AD
Modern Era 1600 AD - Present
Or something along those lines...
My votes would be;
Ancient - Alexander the Great
Dark Ages - Attila the Hun
Middle Ages - Temujin
Modern - Napoleon That is ture. That breaking down could be broken down more as well, were do you draw the line. So lets go with Ancient- up to 500AD, Middle Ages- up 1300, pre-Modern-1800, Modern-1914, Post modern- up to today. As well as an over all winner.
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:56 pm
Ancient - Julius Caeser
Middle Ages - I'll toss out Charlamagne
Pre-Modern - Nelson
Modern - Kitchener
Post Modern - Eisenhower
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Axeman 
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:14 am
Interesting post: I love the tactics of "Stonewall" Jackson in the Civil War. He was the only man who'd realized the day of the bayonette charge was obsolete. James Longstreet tried to prevent the Gettysburg disaster; he was pretty sharp as well. But I'm gonna vote for my great great uncle, Lord Lovat MacShimmie Fraser, chief of the British Comandoes on D-Day.
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:53 am
Well where does one begin..... Ancient has to be a toss up- Hannibal, hell not only did he have to Romans terrified to the point that even after defeated he had to commit suicide in his 70's because the were still coming after him. I only took the Romans the loss of 70,000 men and 80 senators IN A SINGLE DAY for them to fear him. The other has to be Alexander the Great, in my opinion, not only for his conquesting but just for his sole battle against the persian army and the complete route that he dealt them, while outnumbered at a minimum 2 to 1.
Middle Ages- Salah al-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub (Saladin)Not only did he raise up armies and settle internal civil war he then managed to drive out the Christian armies, that were better armed/armoured, plus managed to use the environment to his advantages forcing armies to march to him then fight on his ground (I'm not talking Kingdom of Heaven here I'm talking real history).
Pre-Modern-Stonewall Jackson, if he hadn't of been jerked around by some of the other generals and had his unfortunate accident the civil war could of had a different ending?
As for modern and post modern I think the list is pretty long there was quite a few major wars and quite a few distinguished commanders.
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Posts: 11240
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:13 am
How about General Brock?
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xroule
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Posts: 34
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:08 am
Don’t take it the wrong way. But my vote for the modern commander goes to Ben Laden. He, with a handful of volunteers made the great US tremble. And now when he is most likely dead, he still has an influence on daily American life.
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Posts: 3362
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:53 pm
Cap'n Crunch.
Cause he conquered the seven seas and defeated the Count Chocula and the Lucky Charms Leprechaun.
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Axeman 
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:25 pm
Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski: Cap'n Crunch.
Cause he conquered the seven seas and defeated the Count Chocula and the Lucky Charms Leprechaun. ...and defeating a Leprechaun is no small feat. Never turn your back on one of those bastards or they'll be at you with a shilaleigh. "Burn it all, BURN IT ALL!"
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:36 pm
Mother Nature, she can stop ANYONE!
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Posts: 15681
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:21 pm
GreenTiger GreenTiger: How about General Brock? Brock did a good job, I'm a fan. But really the war of 1812 was a small war with small generals. Patton and Arthur Curry spring to mind in the modern era. Pure leaders the both of 'em. I'm also a big fan of Napolean. Wellington was pretty good too. Nelson, William the Conquerer, and Cromwell round up the good English Generals and an Admiral. Then I'll go with Saladin, Ghengis Khan, Juluis Ceasar and Alexander.
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Posts: 23084
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:27 pm
In light of these breakdowns;
Ancient- up to 500AD - Alexander the Great Middle Ages- up 1300 - Genghis Khan Pre-Modern - 1800 - Gustavus Adolphus Modern-1914 - Napoleon Post modern - Arthur Currie
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Posts: 9914
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:39 pm
Idi Amin Dada.. With a self proclaimed handle like this one...how could he not be the greatest in history..... $1: “His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshall Al Hadji Dr. Idi Amin, VC, DSO, MC, King of Scotland, Lord of all the Beast of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea and Conqueror of the British Empire in General and Uganda in Particular” He died in exile in Saudi Arabia in 2003. President for life eh?
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