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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:40 pm
 



Why Disney Is Fighting with Redbox and Netflix Over a Movie No One Wanted to See


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“John Carter” was one of the biggest film flops of all time. The special-effects-heavy sci-fi epic set on Mars turned out to be an epic box office failure in the U.S. for Disney, leading to a shakeup of company executives. Even as audiences largely ignored the film, “John Carter” finds itself at the center of a battle between Disney on one side and Netflix and Redbox on the other.

After a film’s box office days are done, two distinct forces try to make money from the production in different ways. Movie studios try to selling copies of the film, which reaps in the most profits. Rental outfits such as Netflix and Redbox make money when consumers don’t buy copies of the film, but view them on a borrowed basis (for a fee) instead. The two forces are in direct competition with each other, with quick, cheap, and easy rentals cutting into the sales business and vice versa.

A few years ago, Warner Brothers began waging a war on the rental outfits, by allowing them to rent movies starting four weeks after a movie was released for sale. Warner Bros. and Universal Studios eventually both came to agreements with Redbox and Netflix, and the result has been that if anyone wants to see one of these studios’ films before that 28-day period was up, he or she had to buy it. The strategy is an obvious ploy to boost flagging DVD sales. Something of a test in delayed gratification has arisen, in which the consumer has the choice of paying top dollar to watch (and own) a film right away or waiting four weeks (in some cases, more) to see the movie for as little as $1.20.

Now, Disney is entering the battle, starting with a movie that didn’t gain traction with theatergoers, but that could still wind up being a monster money-maker. “John Carter” may very well prove to be a high-profile curiosity among consumers—one that people wouldn’t pay $10 or $15 to see in theaters, but that is intriguing as a cheap one-time rental. Viewers want to see what all the fuss was about, but they probably don’t want to own the thing.

“John Carter” is the first major movie released on DVD that Disney is refusing to sell to Redbox or Netflix on the day it goes on sale to the public. Instead, Disney—which has yet to come to an agreement with Netflix and Redbox along the lines of Warner Bros. and Universal—has instituted its own 28-day rule, in which it’ll sell its movies to rental outfits only after four weeks of sales have passed.

As Bloomberg and the Los Angeles Times have reported, though, Redbox and Netflix aren’t playing along with the embargo. The rental operators have simply been buying copies of “John Carter”—which went on sale starting June 5, and is now priced at Walmart for $17.99—from retailers just like any consumer, and then renting them on to their customers. “John Carter” DVDs will be stocked at Redbox kiosks by June 12. Some Netflix customers have already received “John Carter” DVDs in the mail.

Enjoy the rentals while they last. It’s likely that Disney will soon come to some sort of agreement with the rental operators, and a rental delay of 28 days (or possibly more) will become official across the board. If and when that happens, the smart approach is to just wait it out and rent whenever that’s possible. If you didn’t want to pay $12 or so to see the movie when it came out in theaters, what makes you think it’s a good purchase at $18 or $20?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:59 pm
 


Here's a tip: To sell more DVDs; make better movies!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:35 pm
 


Cut prices in half. Sell 3X as many DVDs.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:13 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Here's a tip: To sell more DVDs; make better movies!


Amen to that!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:18 pm
 


Naw, more extra-special "directors wet-dream" with alternate happy ending bonus editions are what's needed. For the sequels and remakes.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:12 pm
 


Anti-Disney petition at the local video store. They apparently want to stop video store rentals of Disney movies and make you buy your own copy......
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This is total bullcrap. If you want me to buy your movies then make them worth buying. Most people will pay 15 bucks for a classic on blu ray but few of us are willing to pay the 30 bucks in Canada to buy a movie on day one.

They cost too much as it is for what they really are. Cut prices.


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CanadianJeff CanadianJeff:
This is total bullcrap. If you want me to buy your movies then make them worth buying. Most people will pay 15 bucks for a classic on blu ray but few of us are willing to pay the 30 bucks in Canada to buy a movie on day one.

They cost too much as it is for what they really are. Cut prices.


As an aside, I was pricing a part for my truck and it was 17.99 at Autozone in Watertown, NY and 54.99 in every auto parts store locally!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:53 am
 


Unsound Unsound:
Naw, more extra-special "directors wet-dream" with alternate happy ending bonus editions are what's needed. For the sequels and remakes.


I fucking hate DVDs (Blu-ray included) - I never watch the "special features", which are garbage just like you described, and you can't even just watch the movie.

You are forced to watch commercials for other movies/products, the FBI warning (on a DVD I just fucking bought no less :evil:) and all the other bullshit they make you watch before you can go to the main menu.

Shit like that makes me want to pirate stuff even more!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:40 am
 


CanadianJeff CanadianJeff:
This is total bullcrap. If you want me to buy your movies then make them worth buying. Most people will pay 15 bucks for a classic on blu ray but few of us are willing to pay the 30 bucks in Canada to buy a movie on day one.

They cost too much as it is for what they really are. Cut prices.


Speaking as someone who used to work for all the major studios, prices for the movies have dropped. Most new releases are available at Wal-Mart for ~$18.

There's a lot that goes into getting the DVD's into retail stores including a team of reps all over Canada and the USA that setup and display the DVD's on release date.

Retailers basically force the studios to provide people to merchandise the movie section at their stores. So while retailers are looking to cut costs having someone else merchandise their stores, movie studios are passing on the cost of their "studio team" onto the consumer.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:38 am
 


What pisses me off about DVD's (besides price) is the way they can prevent you from doing certain things like skipping commercials and those stupid warnings etc.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:52 am
 


The only thing that the local anti-Disney petition is doing for me is forcing me to find another outlet to purchase the movies I want to own. The local video store has my loyalty as a customer due to customer service, but this is causing friction with us as they try to secure copies of the movies I want and rentals for their business.


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