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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:01 pm
 


Is philosophy an inter-disciplanary science?

I am beginning to believe that without logic, everything you are forced to digest is pure nonsense.

The power of logic is beyond conquest, is it not?

http://surftofind.com/logic


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Only on Vulcan I'm afraid.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:26 am
 


lynnefoster lynnefoster:
Is philosophy an inter-disciplanary science?

I am beginning to believe that without logic, everything you are forced to digest is pure nonsense.

The power of logic is beyond conquest, is it not?

http://surftofind.com/logic


1) Yes.

2) Then you are beginning to understand.

3) Or else, you couldn't call it 'logic.' ;)

http://www.criticalthinking.org/article ... hought.cfm

http://skeptically.org/logicalthreads/id13.html


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:52 am
 


Logic and reason exist only to the extent that people agree on what they perceive as 'fact'. Once the disagreement is engaged then logic and reason become irrelevant.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:04 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Logic and reason exist only to the extent that people agree on what they perceive as 'fact'. Once the disagreement is engaged then logic and reason become irrelevant.


But we still agree on Boolean logic. :wink:


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DrCaleb DrCaleb:
lynnefoster lynnefoster:
Is philosophy an inter-disciplanary science?

I am beginning to believe that without logic, everything you are forced to digest is pure nonsense.

The power of logic is beyond conquest, is it not?

http://surftofind.com/logic


1) Yes.

2) Then you are beginning to understand.

3) Or else, you couldn't call it 'logic.' ;)

http://www.criticalthinking.org/article ... hought.cfm

http://skeptically.org/logicalthreads/id13.html


Thanks for the links !


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:28 pm
 


Godel showed with his Incompleteness Theorem that every (sufficiently complex) formal system is either inconsistent or incomplete. Therefore there is an inherent limitation to logic (which is a formal system): it cannot show all truths to be true, or all falseholds to be false.

Interestingly, Penrose, in his book The Emperor's New Clothes, shows that a computer could not, in principle, derive Godel's Incompleteness Theorem. So ironically, the Incompleteness Theorem that shows the inherent limitations of science, mathematics and logic, is in itself fundamentally irrational.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:45 pm
 


Tegan Tegan:
Logic is not at all powerful to those that think only on an emotional level and there are a lot of those in political forums. :D



Star Trek...."Undiscovered Country". Now please don't get emotional about logic.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:33 pm
 


and I've always thought that man's imagination was the greatest force.... :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:40 pm
 


Logic? Hmm...I don't know. There are too many illogical things for logic to be the most powerful.


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Wada Wada:
and I've always thought that man's imagination was the greatest force.... :roll:



Logic and the imagination ought to work together. Stupidity and Ignorance is when nothing works.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:29 pm
 


Lots of illogic around. Some of it could be cured with a moments thought. This is in politics, business and the media but also personal relations. A lot of it in family and friend ships. They should make a-moments-thought a rule. It'd improve the world. So that's my message of peace and hope for 2009. Try in out on you spouce.


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Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Stupidity and Ignorance have proven to be far more powerful then Logic and Reason.

:rock: :rock:


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