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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:31 am
 




You gotta love Suzuki, scaring kids into thinking Santa is now homeless. But the best part of course is that you can help fix this by sending him a donationwhich will of course fix everything :|

http://www.wherewillsantalive.ca


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:43 am
 


Well I'd love to help but I'm already being forced to donate through McGuinty's over-excessive subsidization of wind power.
Hell, they should just use Queen's Park as an artificial geo-thermal unit. The hot air from that building would keep at least the City of Toronto flush with green energy.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:49 am
 


Hmmm. What next. :mrgreen:

Not sure what he is doing here, trying to scare kids or amuse us or both.

Then he gets blown away at the end. :? Even though the rain comes straight dowm.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:15 am
 


We should all donate to help Santa move to the south pole. It is land based and more ice is forming. I used to admire Suzuki, but he is now bordering on the ridiculous.

Before Sand or Ski reads this I will write the word........

Fail.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:19 am
 


Someone tickling his ass in that ad ?

or trying to squeeze all the dough into his wallet by scaring kids.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:00 pm
 


It was, of course, aimed at scaring adults, not kids. At adults who need something to shake them out of their complacency. Learning that it will not be all that long before there is no ice at the North Pole - as there no longer is in summer, will be no bad thing.

Help keep myth of Santa alive for your kids' sake. Donate.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:11 pm
 


eureka eureka:
It was, of course, aimed at scaring adults, not kids. At adults who need something to shake them out of their complacency. Learning that it will not be all that long before there is no ice at the North Pole - as there no longer is in summer, will be no bad thing.

Help keep myth of Santa alive for your kids' sake. Donate.


I'm curious,

What are you (try to forget you're in your 80s and imagine you are your grandchildren) prepared to sacrifice in order to achieve a reverse of AGW?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:18 pm
 


Stunts like this only serve to debase and degrade the whole global warming debate. Suzuki could have used this website for a ton of other educational opportunities such as energy conversation during Christmas, the importance of recycling, giving to the less fortunate and the list goes on and on. But instead what does he do? He holds Santa hostage and shills for cash for himself. And we’re supposed to take people like this seriously? If you’ve ever wondered why global warming is no longer a top issue with people these days it’s because of people like this and their bullshit scare tactics.


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Gunnair Gunnair:
eureka eureka:
It was, of course, aimed at scaring adults, not kids. At adults who need something to shake them out of their complacency. Learning that it will not be all that long before there is no ice at the North Pole - as there no longer is in summer, will be no bad thing.

Help keep myth of Santa alive for your kids' sake. Donate.


I'm curious,

What are you (try to forget you're in your 80s and imagine you are your grandchildren) prepared to sacrifice in order to achieve a reverse of AGW?


My grandchildren (aged eight and six) already have a better understanding of this than many adults that I read and hear. When they are a little older, I am sure that they will willingly make any sacrifice needed.

The possibilities without sacrifice are too horrendous to be ignored. I know one couple - a geochemist and his geophysicist wife who are childless by choice since they do not think appropriate actions will be taken in time and the world will not be one that is hospitable to human population - and not just climate but the reversion to barbarism they predict.

However, sacrifice is not really the question. If we could make the political leaders put human needs before ambition and ideology there would be change not sacrifice. And change that would lead to healthier and more sustainable lifestyles than we now have. Change, too, that the whole world would benefit from; not just the present developed countries.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:49 am
 


eureka eureka:

If we could make the political leaders put human needs before ambition and ideology there would be change not sacrifice.


to do that we'd have to get voters to put human needs before ambition, greed and ideology, and there's the rub. And, we're now a global system. As people have pointed out, huge levels of inequality between countries, as well as within. No way we're goign to convince people in a country with a very low economic standard of living to stay there relative to us. For what you suggest, we'd have to have some global consciousness that we're all in it together and we have to share and share alike. I certainly don't see that happening - so I'm with your childless friends. I think things are likely to get worse, not better. But who knows.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:59 am
 


You guys really need to get away from the computers and get out more. 8O


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dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:
You guys really need to get away from the computers and get out more. 8O

I want to but I keep getting sucked into this place called "the Digital World" inhabited by weird little critters that shoot fireballs from their mouths. Either that or I'm psychotic. Take your pick.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:02 pm
 


This is a humourless person's attempt at humour. Suzuki's never displayed any sort of humour in his entire life, just a obtuse combination of simmering anger, self-righteousness, and self-seriousness. That's why this forgettable clip comes off as so pedantic, sanctimonious, and pathetic. Usually the lefties do humour at lot better than the righties, but in this case clearly not.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:11 pm
 


^^^ What he said. It's sad because Suzuki's effect on the environmental movement is becoming just like PETA's effect on the animal rights' movement. As soon as a legitimate cause is overrun with kooks and silly gimmicks, the movement itself becomes irrelevant. Suzuki is an expert on fruit flies. If he has something to say about fruit flies, I'm all ears. On other matters, not so much.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:13 pm
 


The way I see it, andy, is that we do not lose by change to sustainable practises but the Third World does benefit. And benefit greatly.Energy is the base of all economic standards and that, when shifted to the renewable choices will be as practical in poor countries as in rich ones. It will be the rising tide that lifts all boats.

The continuation of a carbon based economy will retain the concentration in the developed world.

What we are likely to lose now because of the delay amounts to 1 to 2% of World GDP that would be quickly made up. That is the calculation of the Stern commission. If we wait another few decades it will be 5%. Much longer and it will be complete collapse.


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