[hwacker]

Ripcat Ripcat:

Ruxpercnd Ruxpercnd:

Robair Robair:

hwacker hwacker:

If they used Lebanon as an excuse for refugee status they should have to stay there. If it was no good then what the hell are you doing there?

Not everybody was abandoned at birth 'h', you're kinda special.

I've worked with three people who came to Canada as refugies. Two from China and one from Romania. The one from Romania worked his butt off to get family members over to Canda before the fall of Ceausescu. The two from China go back to China to visit whenever the political climate allows. If they were to misjudge and go back at the wrong time, they could be tried as spies. The two from China hold doctorates in Engineering and the Romanian is VP sales for a 500 plus employee company.

They aren't activists and they are deafinatly Canadian. They have families in the old country, this makes them normal people. Get it?

Yes, but that doesn't mean you have to go rescue them! They know better than anyone how dangerous their old neighborhood is.

So when the Big One hits San Francisco we will all just shug and say "Oh well, they were warned." Errr, wait a minute, it's just God getting rid of the gays........

I think you're on to somthing there.

[Arctic_Menace]

[Ruxpercnd]

Canadian Travel Warnings can be found at: http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/sos/warnings-en.asp


From: http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/report-en. ... y=159000#2

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Lebanon

...OFFICIAL WARNING: Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada advises against all travel to this country. (IDW3)

Due to the events of July 12 in Southern Lebanon and the resulting escalation in tensions in the region, you are advised against all travel to Lebanon. Canadians currently in Lebanon should remain indoors and minimize movement until further notice. Key highways leading out of Lebanon could become targets for military attacks. You are advised against all travel to the south, as of Tyre (Sur) and especially to the areas near the border with Israel....


....Canadians should present themselves as Canadian to foreign authorities and use their Canadian passport at all times. Holding dual Canadian-Lebanese nationality may limit the ability of Canadian officials to provide consular services......

All the warnings are out there and have been out there...

[hwacker]

"Holding dual Canadian-Lebanese nationality may limit the ability of Canadian officials to provide consular services......"


Good for Canada.

Take care of the Canadians first.

[Ripcat]

Ruxpercnd Ruxpercnd:

All the warnings are out there and have been out there...

Really? What did it say before July 12?

[Ruxpercnd]

Ripcat Ripcat:

Ruxpercnd Ruxpercnd:

Robair Robair:

hwacker hwacker:

If they used Lebanon as an excuse for refugee status they should have to stay there. If it was no good then what the hell are you doing there?

Not everybody was abandoned at birth 'h', you're kinda special.

I've worked with three people who came to Canada as refugies. Two from China and one from Romania. The one from Romania worked his butt off to get family members over to Canda before the fall of Ceausescu. The two from China go back to China to visit whenever the political climate allows. If they were to misjudge and go back at the wrong time, they could be tried as spies. The two from China hold doctorates in Engineering and the Romanian is VP sales for a 500 plus employee company.

They aren't activists and they are deafinatly Canadian. They have families in the old country, this makes them normal people. Get it?

Yes, but that doesn't mean you have to go rescue them! They know better than anyone how dangerous their old neighborhood is.

So when the Big One hits San Francisco we will all just shug and say "Oh well, they were warned." Errr, wait a minute, it's just God getting rid of the gays........

I have no comment at all about gays, however, if San Francisco represents a known danger and you choose to build your house on the fault line.... then I will will be there to clean up the mess, but I am also going to wonder what the fuck you were thinking.... Folks living in a known danger area should be prepared to deal with it.

But... I am watching the TV and I can see there is a major effort to get Americans, Canadians, British, etc. out. Some of the efforts are low key so as not to attract too much attention from the bad guys.... The allies have the ships and helicopters there, which is the right thing to do.

[IcedCap]

Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:

Anybody with a passport, you get.

You have to treat it that way, because you can't be deciding who the "real Canadians" are, assuming you could, with the helicopters taking off.

Someone's lame-ass Canadian is someone else's mother.

A citizen's a citizen, no questions asked.

[Ruxpercnd]

Ripcat Ripcat:

Ruxpercnd Ruxpercnd:

All the warnings are out there and have been out there...

Really? What did it say before July 12?

If you look at the site... the page is in reverse chronological order... stuff towards the bottom is older.... Yes, there were warnings....

[IcedCap]

Ruxpercnd Ruxpercnd:

Canadian Travel Warnings can be found at: http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/sos/warnings-en.asp


From: http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/report-en. ... y=159000#2

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Lebanon

...OFFICIAL WARNING: Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada advises against all travel to this country. (IDW3)

Due to the events of July 12 in Southern Lebanon and the resulting escalation in tensions in the region, you are advised against all travel to Lebanon. Canadians currently in Lebanon should remain indoors and minimize movement until further notice. Key highways leading out of Lebanon could become targets for military attacks. You are advised against all travel to the south, as of Tyre (Sur) and especially to the areas near the border with Israel....


....Canadians should present themselves as Canadian to foreign authorities and use their Canadian passport at all times. Holding dual Canadian-Lebanese nationality may limit the ability of Canadian officials to provide consular services......

All the warnings are out there and have been out there...

How many people do you honestly think travelled there after July 12th? first things the Israelis did was bomb the airports, roads and bridges so those who wanted to leave couldn't, that's why they're being evacuated

[Ruxpercnd]

I think this would be the Pre-July 12 comments on Lebanon:

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There is an increased threat of terrorism in Lebanon due to heightened tensions and an ongoing political crisis. A series of targeted bombings and grenade attacks have taken place in different areas of Beirut since February 2004, injuring dozens and resulting in several deaths. The largest of these bombings took place on February 14, 2005, killing former Prime Minister Rafic Hariri and several others. Massive public protests in Beirut, Saidon, and other cities, both for and against the Syrian military presence in Lebanon, were followed by Syria's removal of its forces from Lebanon in April 2005.

On February 5, 2006, a large and violent demonstration took place in Achrafieh, a district of Beirut. Canadians should avoid large gatherings and demonstrations, pay close attention to their personal security, and monitor the media for updates.

Heightened tensions throughout the region, together with increased threats globally from terrorism, put Canadians at greater risk. Canadians should be aware of the global risk of indiscriminate terrorist attacks, including those against civilian targets, such as pedestrian promenades, shopping malls, open markets, restaurants, discotheques, cinemas, and other places frequented by foreigners. Canadians should maintain a high level of personal security awareness at all times, as the security situation could deteriorate rapidly without notice. Exercise appropriate caution in large gatherings and crowded places. Canadians should monitor local developments and register and remain in regular contact with the Embassy of Canada in Beirut or Foreign Affairs Canada (call collect 613-996-8885).

The violence in Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza has raised the possibility of demonstrations in support of Palestinians throughout the Middle East and elsewhere in the world. While Lebanese authorities have acted to prevent demonstrations from becoming violent, the potential for further protests remains high. Security conditions remain unpredictable. Canadian travellers should follow events closely, remain alert to the changing situation, exercise appropriate caution, avoid demonstrations, and take appropriate measures to maintain their security. These measures include being aware of one's surroundings and keeping a low profile. Canadians should listen to and observe all warnings issued by Lebanese authorities and take appropriate precautions. Lebanon is subject to Israeli overflights breaking the sound barrier, causing sonic booms that can be confused with the sound of detonation.

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The Hezbollah maintains a presence in the south and several other areas, including the Bekaa Valley. Forces other than the Lebanese military exert a large amount of control in certain areas, especially in the Bekaa Valley and in southern Lebanon.

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3. SAFETY AND SECURITY

There is a highly visible security presence throughout the country. Canadians should carry full personal documentation and obey the instructions of security personnel. Canadians of Lebanese descent who carry Lebanese papers will be treated as Lebanese nationals by security officials. Canadian officials may be limited in their ability to provide consular services in cases where a dual national runs into difficulty.
Landmines and unexploded ordnance pose a significant threat, particularly in the south. Travellers should be aware of posted landmine warnings, stay on paved roads, and avoid walking or driving cross-country.

[canadian1971]

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Yawn. All lefties and red tories accuse those who disagree with them of being "racists." .

yet later in your post you say....

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Even for a red tory (dead tory) anti-semite such as yourself.

Now I find this peculiar....you claim that Lefties and Red tories are quick to play a racist card......what is an anti-semite if not a racist? Kinda hard to see your own hipocrisy with those dark blue shades you always wear though isnt it. Now go sell that shit somewhere else. I'm bored with it.

[canadian1971]

Why are were rescuing these Canadians? That last word says it all to me....they hold Canadian citizenship...whether we like them or not isnt the question.

[Hardy]

canadian1971 canadian1971:

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Yawn. All lefties and red tories accuse those who disagree with them of being "racists." .

yet later in your post you say....

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Even for a red tory (dead tory) anti-semite such as yourself.

Now I find this peculiar....

Me too. It's funny how some people can relentlessly chant "death to all Arabs," when Arabs are semitic, then accuse other people of anti-semitism based solely on their disapproval of actions by the Israeli government.

[SJ-24]

When the Tsunami hit the far east I sent in $300. People caught up in something like that get my attention and sympathy. Those that stick the gun in their mouths and hope no bullets are in it get the fucking Darwin Award. Do you see the difference?

As for Canada getting the idiots out of a known terrorist zone...The govenment has sent in 6 cruise ships to rescue those that wish to go to Cyprus. They must sign a promisary note to pay back the government for the costs of the trip out. When they get to Cyprus they will have choice between continueing on to Canada via 3 airliners on lease for this event, or simply staying in cyprus and wait out the war. If they take the airliner they once again must sign a note and pay for the trip. The Foreign Affairs department says that some 40,000 Canadians live in lebanon. They figure some 15,000 will want to leave. That speaks volumes about how many of those that live there with a Canadian passport are simply carrying a passport as a safe guard and will use it when they need it to get them out of trouble....like leaving a war zone like Lebanon.

[Scape]

The US is also charging to use its services as well for the helicopters and ships. Lot of money in the refugee business.