[MustangJay]

While I disagree with your position of simply abandoning these Canadians in the middle east, I do believe that when this is over and the dust settles there needs to be some laws implemented to prevent this. For example, a travel restriction to particular countries pron to these types of conflicts might be in order as a means of protecting Canadians. I do see the point in having to spend money and resources constantly evacuating Canadians from areas they should never have been in to begin with. Let's not kid ourselves here, Lebanon is a fragile democracy at best and has seen its share of on again/off again turmoil. In travelling htere for whatever there reason carries a certain degree of risk, moreso then travelling to Tampa for example. Does anyone know of any countries that Canadians are already barred from visiting? I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this.

[Wada]

but, IF were gonna be a world player......

[Scape]

MustangJay MustangJay:

I do see the point in having to spend money and resources constantly evacuating Canadians from areas they should never have been in to begin with.

Quick question. Besides Dunkirk and Saigon where have you seen evacuations on the scale that we are seeing now unfold in Lebanon?

[hwacker]

If they used Lebanon as an excuse for refugee status they should have to stay there. If it was no good then what the hell are you doing there?

[Motorcycleboy]

Robair Robair:

Opinions are kind of like assholes, everybody's got one.

My opinion is that Bart and Motorcycle must be angry, angry little men.

These are Canucks and Yanks in trouble. Send the boats.

I can't speak for Bart.

But I'm fine thanks.

After all, I'm not the one living in exile abroad, trying to re-fight the 1988 Federal Election with every post!

[MustangJay]

Scape Scape:

MustangJay MustangJay:

I do see the point in having to spend money and resources constantly evacuating Canadians from areas they should never have been in to begin with.

Quick question. Besides Dunkirk and Saigon where have you seen evacuations on the scale that we are seeing now unfold in Lebanon?

...and Rawanda

[Mosleyite]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

With 40,000 Canadians in Lebanon you shouldn't be rescuing them, you should be annexing them!

Not a bad idea. I've always felt Canada could use a few colonies. I wouldn't pitch a bid for Lebanon, however. There are softer African countries we could invade and exploit more effectively while accidentally raising their standard of living. Zimbabwe, for example.

[hwacker]

Mosleyite Mosleyite:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

With 40,000 Canadians in Lebanon you shouldn't be rescuing them, you should be annexing them!

Not a bad idea. I've always felt Canada could use a few colonies. I wouldn't pitch a bid for Lebanon, however. There are softer African countries we could invade and exploit more effectively while accidentally raising their standard of living. Zimbabwe, for example.

Are you crazy?

In 3 years with our immigration policy that new Canada would be 10X the size of the Real Canada.

[Mosleyite]

hwacker hwacker:

Mosleyite Mosleyite:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

With 40,000 Canadians in Lebanon you shouldn't be rescuing them, you should be annexing them!

Not a bad idea. I've always felt Canada could use a few colonies. I wouldn't pitch a bid for Lebanon, however. There are softer African countries we could invade and exploit more effectively while accidentally raising their standard of living. Zimbabwe, for example.

Are you crazy?

In 3 years with our immigration policy that new Canada would be 10X the size of the Real Canada.

Well, our current immigration policy would have to go. It has to go as it stands. Paying for my education is a real pain when the competition to work at the local grocery store has them hiring for 3 years at a time. This liberal joke is what has destroyed the market's ability to serve the public interest.

[Bodah]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

With 40,000 Canadians in Lebanon you shouldn't be rescuing them, you should be annexing them!

I dont know Im kind of torn on this one, isnt there 25 000 Americans in Lebanon as well ?

I do realize some of them may have claimed refugee status to get into Canada initially and then return once the storm settled to tie up financial loose ends and perhaps create new ones.

To me it would seem like at the very least to be "good PR" for Canada to get these people out.

[Robair]

hwacker hwacker:

If they used Lebanon as an excuse for refugee status they should have to stay there. If it was no good then what the hell are you doing there?

Not everybody was abandoned at birth 'h', you're kinda special.

I've worked with three people who came to Canada as refugies. Two from China and one from Romania. The one from Romania worked his butt off to get family members over to Canda before the fall of Ceausescu. The two from China go back to China to visit whenever the political climate allows. If they were to misjudge and go back at the wrong time, they could be tried as spies. The two from China hold doctorates in Engineering and the Romanian is VP sales for a 500 plus employee company.

They aren't activists and they are deafinatly Canadian. They have families in the old country, this makes them normal people. Get it?

[Motorcycleboy]

$1:

GunPlumber

MCB,

It may interest you to know that 6 of the 8 CANADIANS KILLED BY THE ISRAELIS, were members of the same family and this was their first trip to Lebanon.

It's always sad when innocents die. Hey, here's a question. How many innocents were killed by the Hezbollah rockets that landed in Haifa the day before that happened?

$1:

Very racist of you

Yawn. All lefties and red tories accuse those who disagree with them of being "racists." Go sell that shit somewhere else because I'm bored.

$1:

Or are you just trying to justify Israeli babarism?

Like that incredibly "barbarous" act where Israel unilaterally withdrew from the Gaza Strip, only to be subject to rocket attacks the minute they did so. Is that the kind of "barbarism" you're talking about?

$1:

The father of this family, who fled the last Israeli war against Lebanon 26 years ago, was unable to go on the trip because he was busy running a successful pharmacy in Montreal.

Maybe you could explain to me why this proud Canadian family are now describing their dead relatives as "Martyrs."

It's funny. I remember reading about the sinking of passenger ferries in the Gulf of St Lawrence during World War 2 by German U-Boats. Yet I can't recall the families of those dead Canadian civilians refering to the victims of those atrocities as "Martyrs."

$1:

Maybe you can make a trip up there and explain to him how his murdered children weren't real Canadians?

Is this the part where you're going to tell me how you served on an un-eventful peacekeeping tour in the Golan Heights back in 1985 and as a result, you have a special insight into the conflict?

As if the fact you spent six months changing the sears on FN's and SMG's in a secure base camp, in a pacified part of the world, under a blue beret, indicates you're possessed of some particular insight.

Guess what? I'm not impressed.

$1:

By the way, protesting the genocidal behavior of an outlaw state,and our government's support for their latest atrocities, does not require you to be a citizen of that states latest victim.

Israel is the only responsible, democratic, pluralistic state in the entire Middle East. I, as a real Tory, am quite proud that we have a Prime Minister whose willing to acknowledge that. Calling Israel an "Outlaw State" is a stretch. Even for a red tory (dead tory) anti-semite such as yourself.

Don't worry though Gunplumber. Your opinion may have held sway in this country at one time. But Red Toryism died with Dalton Camp.

We're living in a big, bad, new world these days. You and Joe Clark can go fishing. Leave the big decisions to us big boys in the real Tory Party!

[EyeBrock]

Robair Robair:

hwacker hwacker:

If they used Lebanon as an excuse for refugee status they should have to stay there. If it was no good then what the hell are you doing there?

Not everybody was abandoned at birth 'h', you're kinda special.

I've worked with three people who came to Canada as refugies. Two from China and one from Romania. The one from Romania worked his butt off to get family members over to Canda before the fall of Ceausescu. The two from China go back to China to visit whenever the political climate allows. If they were to misjudge and go back at the wrong time, they could be tried as spies. The two from China hold doctorates in Engineering and the Romanian is VP sales for a 500 plus employee company.

They aren't activists and they are deafinatly Canadian. They have families in the old country, this makes them normal people. Get it?

Well, we either stop taking in so many refugees from the worlds hot spots and shit holes or we invest in a bigger navy with heavy lift choppers available to pluck our plastic Canadians from the country they fled from and returned to at the wrong time. Oh, and maybe Air Command can actually deploy to protect the RCN. Better still lets get an aircraft carrier or two.

We can't fling open our doors and not think of the issues that 50,000 immigrants with Canadian passports pose to us a nation.
We gave these guys citizenship, now we need to follow up on our obligations to protect them, plastic or not.

[Ruxpercnd]

Robair Robair:

hwacker hwacker:

If they used Lebanon as an excuse for refugee status they should have to stay there. If it was no good then what the hell are you doing there?

Not everybody was abandoned at birth 'h', you're kinda special.

I've worked with three people who came to Canada as refugies. Two from China and one from Romania. The one from Romania worked his butt off to get family members over to Canda before the fall of Ceausescu. The two from China go back to China to visit whenever the political climate allows. If they were to misjudge and go back at the wrong time, they could be tried as spies. The two from China hold doctorates in Engineering and the Romanian is VP sales for a 500 plus employee company.

They aren't activists and they are deafinatly Canadian. They have families in the old country, this makes them normal people. Get it?

Yes, but that doesn't mean you have to go rescue them! They know better than anyone how dangerous their old neighborhood is.

[Ripcat]

Ruxpercnd Ruxpercnd:

Robair Robair:

hwacker hwacker:

If they used Lebanon as an excuse for refugee status they should have to stay there. If it was no good then what the hell are you doing there?

Not everybody was abandoned at birth 'h', you're kinda special.

I've worked with three people who came to Canada as refugies. Two from China and one from Romania. The one from Romania worked his butt off to get family members over to Canda before the fall of Ceausescu. The two from China go back to China to visit whenever the political climate allows. If they were to misjudge and go back at the wrong time, they could be tried as spies. The two from China hold doctorates in Engineering and the Romanian is VP sales for a 500 plus employee company.

They aren't activists and they are deafinatly Canadian. They have families in the old country, this makes them normal people. Get it?

Yes, but that doesn't mean you have to go rescue them! They know better than anyone how dangerous their old neighborhood is.

So when the Big One hits San Francisco we will all just shug and say "Oh well, they were warned." Errr, wait a minute, it's just God getting rid of the gays........