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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:09 pm
I found this on another site I'm a member of and I am trying to find a link to this story.
$1: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.
Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on national television.
"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said.
Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelsonlater told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians." "However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle." "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"
"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the language!"
"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."
"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."
"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."
"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:52 pm
Everytime Howard opens his mouth he appears to be a bigger idiot than Bush. That's quite an acheivement.
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:02 pm
Can't say I disagree. Maybe not the spying...
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:00 pm
I'm moving to Australia...
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Scrappy
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Posts: 2282
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:03 pm
Considering what the media has been reporting on Radical Teachings in the Mosque it's about time the Government spoke up. I agree with the entire article, it will make the "Appeasers" and the left/left weep in their "Over tolerant" and most wonderous snot rags but what's new about that?
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:19 pm
Finally Australia says what all secular Western societies should be telling the Fifth columnists. Don't like what we stand for? Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. Or how about just stay away, you and your type aren't wanted.
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Confused
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Posts: 98
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:22 pm
sandorski sandorski: Everytime Howard opens his mouth he appears to be a bigger idiot than Bush. That's quite an acheivement. Na. No one is more of an idiot than Bush. Howard is only speaking the truth. $1: Finally Australia says what all secular Western societies should be telling the Fifth columnists. Don't like what we stand for? Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. Or how about just stay away, you and your type aren't wanted.

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Scrappy
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:27 pm
Before the appeasers show up screaming and wailing read what a Muslim has to say about the Religion of Peace:
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life ... 354063.ece
Even a Muslim admits we have problems, so before the word "Racist" not applicable by the way followed by Bigot and then Hater read the damn link.
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:11 pm
Wow, Howard doesn't have his tongue in his pocket.
To an extent I agree to what he says. Can't adapt to the basis of the Australian culture? Well, too bad, then you shouldn't be there. Still, as I like to say, cut the immigrants some slack and let them keep a large portion of their own culture if it doesn't hurt - if everybody makes a small effort things should go smoothly.
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neopundit
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:40 pm
Scrappy Scrappy: Even a Muslim admits we have problems, so before the word "Racist" not applicable by the way followed by Bigot and then Hater read the damn link.
Translator, please.
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:50 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: Finally Australia says what all secular Western societies should be telling the Fifth columnists. Don't like what we stand for? Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. Or how about just stay away, you and your type aren't wanted.
First time I heard this term; Fifth columnists - NICE.
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GreatBriton
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Posts: 3152
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:52 am
sandorski sandorski: Everytime Howard opens his mouth he appears to be a bigger idiot than Bush. That's quite an acheivement.
So he's wrong to tell Muslims who want Sharia law in Australia to leave?
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GreatBriton
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:55 am
fire_i fire_i: Wow, Howard doesn't have his tongue in his pocket.
Well, he's Australian, what do you expect? When it comes to being loud-mouthed, the Aussies are similar to Canadians and Americans. You should hear their players or fans mouthing off when England beat them at cricket or rugby.
But I agree with everything Howard said.
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:15 am
GreatBriton GreatBriton: fire_i fire_i: Wow, Howard doesn't have his tongue in his pocket.
Well, he's Australian, what do you expect? When it comes to being loud-mouthed, the Aussies are similar to Canadians and Americans. You should hear their players or fans mouthing off when England beat them at cricket or rugby. But I agree with everything Howard said.
And when it comes to being a gummed up blowhard with an ego as big as the holes where his teeth used to be,GB is the man,something for our British cousins to be proud of. 
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Clogeroo
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:54 am
Sounds fair and I'm glad the Australians are taking a stand. It is no different than going to an Islamic country where you have to accept their laws and practices as well. Therefore coming to a Christian based country you should accept our way of life and our culture that you have now immigrated to become part of.
$1: As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle." "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"

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