[WarHawk]

It was only supposed to cost what? 2 million? Well it's already cost tax payers over 1 billion, and could cost us several more if we don't get rid of it! The concept of gun control actually preventing crime is a fallacy, in fact there is plently of evidence to the contrary. All that gun laws do is disarm honest citizens, while criminals are the only ones left with guns. In England the homocide rate has actualy gone up 50% during the 1990's, and they banned hand guns! The rate of violent crime in the UK has also risen, from 400 per 100,000 in 1988, to 1,400 in 2000, according to the British Home Office.

[dgthe3]

I think that the gun laws are more of a political statement than anything else. Why would sombidy who would be willing to murder someone be stoped by a law about registering your gun. I did hear about a good way to control guns though, make ammo cost way more! the majority of violent crimes are commited by people of low income, if they cannot afford bullets, they will have a much harder time shooting someone. the idea will never come into effect and likely would never work, but at least the government would be able to make money off of it.

[ziggy]

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My bear scare/banger and pepper spray have taken the place of my 30-30 winchester when in the back country now. Somehow I dont feel as safe though,especially when a cougar is following you.I've been stalked twice by cougar and its a scary feeling.
Had a bud that was in a tree stand spotting for elk when a cat approached,after a 2 hour standoff he realized he was on the menu as the cat started climbing the tree.He used the string from his elk call to reach down and pull his bow up as it was leaning against the tree.He shot it in the throat from about 3 feet away.

Lots of cats around lately,they take 4 or 5 a week here and they have broken into houses on quite a few occasions.

[spikecomix]

I'm not so sure... while the adage "If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns" is true, it's also true that households with guns are more likely to shoot an intruder by accident or have a gun-related accident. We do have fewer shooting deaths in Canada with our more-stringent gun purchasing laws (at least I think they're more stringent, I have no interest in buying guns...) and I'd hate to see that reversed.

[Canadaka]

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hear about a good way to control guns though, make ammo cost way more!

well Chris Rock did a skit on this, make one bullet Cost $5000 so if someone was shot, you know he deserved it then!

[ziggy]

I can get rid of an unregistered rifle but need the papers to buy the shells.

[putz]

Alright here I wade in again

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Well it's already cost tax payers over 1 billion, and could cost us several more if we don't get rid of it!

money that could be better spent on community/municiple/regional police

$1:

I did hear about a good way to control guns though, make ammo cost way more! the majority of violent crimes are commited by people of low income, if they cannot afford bullets, they will have a much harder time shooting someone.

Guns cost waaaay more then ammo. These people can get guns the'll get ammo regardless of the cost. Look at the UK where you can't even buy a handgun. There homicide rate for guns /per capita is on par with ours

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Maybe an out right ban of assault rifles and hand guns would be more appropriate. Limit gun ownership to single shot rifles for hunters and farmers with a special permit for classic gun collectors but they would have to be rendered inoperable.

A boulder is a stone is a rock. All guns are leathal I can only see the ban on assualt rifles making sense as a fully automatic weapon has no point in a household. An inoperable "classic gun" is nothing but a fancey paperweight.

$1:

it's also true that households with guns are more likely to shoot an intruder by accident or have a gun-related accident. We do have fewer shooting deaths in Canada with our more-stringent gun purchasing laws (at least I think they're more stringent, I have no interest in buying guns...) and I'd hate to see that reversed.

Intruder + my house = ............. thats my though on that. The stats for shooting related deaths in crime have not gone down since the registry was brought in.

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well Chris Rock did a skit on this, make one bullet Cost $5000 so if someone was shot, you know he deserved it then!

Any person with a little bit of training can make their own ammo. I grew up on a farm and could load my own shot by the time I was 13 (under supervision of course)

[spikecomix]

putz putz:

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it's also true that households with guns are more likely to shoot an intruder by accident or have a gun-related accident. We do have fewer shooting deaths in Canada with our more-stringent gun purchasing laws (at least I think they're more stringent, I have no interest in buying guns...) and I'd hate to see that reversed.

Intruder + my house = ............. thats my though on that. The stats for shooting related deaths in crime have not gone down since the registry was brought in.

I'm going to assume that by that ellipses you meant "duh I'm going to shoot an intruder". What I meant was more along the lines of this situation:

Wife: "Honey! I heard a noise downstairs!"
Husb.:"*grunt*? I'll go check it out (good thing I have this gun for protection!)"
Noise:(knocks something over and startles Husband)
Husb.: "AAGGH!! *BLAM BLAM BLAM*

...

Oh shit I shot our son who was coming in late! Oh noeessss...."

[putz]

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Wife: "Honey! I heard a noise downstairs!"
Husb.:"*grunt*? I'll go check it out (good thing I have this gun for protection!)"
Noise:(knocks something over and startles Husband)
Husb.: "AAGGH!! *BLAM BLAM BLAM*

Thats and accident accidents happen regardless... what about this

$1:

Oh shit I shot our son who was coming in late! Oh noeessss...."

Jeeze I saved my own life from the knife weilding intruder that I just walked in on.

You can go around this time and time again. Accidental shootings do happen and always will happen regardless of gun control or not. That is the risk that you take when you CHOOSE to bring a gun into the house or not. I believe that if you catch someone who BROKE into YOUR house you should have the right to do what you deem proper to protect your family. Remeber just because a robber isn't "armed" with a knife or gun doesn't mean that he/she could have a screwdriver or someother common break in tool to use against you. Ideally the situation should be like this:

Wife: "Honey! I heard a noise downstairs!"
Husb.:"*grunt*? Call the cops.

However, if I had kids and though that someone was breaking into my house or if someone broke in and I though they might come into my bedroom then I'll go out. Sorry, I just have a whole "dog eat dog world" perspective.

[ziggy]

putz putz:

$1:

Wife: "Honey! I heard a noise downstairs!"
Husb.:"*grunt*? I'll go check it out (good thing I have this gun for protection!)"
Noise:(knocks something over and startles Husband)
Husb.: "AAGGH!! *BLAM BLAM BLAM*

Thats and accident accidents happen regardless... what about this

$1:

Oh shit I shot our son who was coming in late! Oh noeessss...."

Jeeze I saved my own life from the knife weilding intruder that I just walked in on.

You can go around this time and time again. Accidental shootings do happen and always will happen regardless of gun control or not. That is the risk that you take when you CHOOSE to bring a gun into the house or not. I believe that if you catch someone who BROKE into YOUR house you should have the right to do what you deem proper to protect your family. Remeber just because a robber isn't "armed" with a knife or gun doesn't mean that he/she could have a screwdriver or someother common break in tool to use against you. Ideally the situation should be like this:

Wife: "Honey! I heard a noise downstairs!"
Husb.:"*grunt*? Call the cops.

However, if I had kids and though that someone was breaking into my house or if someone broke in and I though they might come into my bedroom then I'll go out. Sorry, I just have a whole "dog eat dog world" perspective.

Spoken like a true Albertan.

After repeated attempts to kick in 2 doors in my house one night years ago I was terrified,there was 3 guys trying to break in even though they knew me and my 3 buds were inside.We were on the other side holding the doors from getting kicked in and losing the battle quickly. I was just 16 at the time and now I would phone 911 but that wasnt available back then. I heard them at the big sliding glass doors in the kitchen and saw them picking up the dutch wooden shoes that were used for planters to smash the plate glass window,by now I had enough and grabbed my 30-30 out of the bedroom.These guys saw me through the window just before the shoe was thrown and they saw me lever a shell.They all turned to run and I chased(now that I'm older I would have stopped at this point,they were retreating)I ran outside and fired off 3 quick ones into the air.



They hopped an 8 foot fence with the agility of a high jumper and I never saw them again.This is rural Alberta and the cops did come and most of what I just wrote was what was on my statement. That was the end of it.

[QBC]

The gun registry was and always will be a joke. It's cost us millions and will never save one persons life. But way back when, the Liberals came up with our new gun laws, 2/3rds of which were great. The banning of assault weapons and heavier jail terms for those convicted of using a gun during a crime. These items are good, no one need an assault weapon for anything but killing other people and a tougher responce to the use of a gun in a crime is a needed thing, they may save some lives in this country. The government just had to included the registry along with it and basically said if you want these other things you have to take the registry too. The only thing the registry will ever do is help the government take all guns away someday, or if the public gets too pissed off and decides to look at revolt.

[CanuckEMT]

The gun registry is rediculous, as was stated earlier gun related deaths have not gone down since it's introduction. Funny thought that knife related deaths have( maybe a knife registry next). Who was the brainchild that thought a criminal would ever register his gun before commiting a crime. The only thing that registry is going to do is get law abiding citizens arrested if your rifle gets stolen from your house and someone gets shot with it, YOU get charged with improper storage of a firearm. Imagine that even if they don't get the guy who did it, they will get to charge someone to make the stats look good.

[Robair]

There is no use for a gun registry. Especially in the rural scenes. (Another farm boy chiming in)

That being said, the only use for handguns or assualt rifles is killing people.

As far as the accidents... people are a lot less likely to keep a bolt action .303 in the nightstand.

It is very different down here (U.S.) as far as gun ownership. It's not only their right to own one, I think most believe it's their duty. Of course, I am living in Kentucky.

My first KY girlfriend had a pistol in the nightsand. My current one has a shotgun under the bed. Go to a party and the conversation turns to guns? All of a sudden all my co-workers are going out to the car to bring in their pistols and compare. I'm not kidding, that happened last month.

This is why I don't think we'll ever catch up to the US in gun related deaths be they accidental or otherwise.

[WarHawk]

Robair Robair:

There is no use for a gun registry. Especially in the rural scenes. (Another farm boy chiming in)

That being said, the only use for handguns or assualt rifles is killing people.

As far as the accidents... people are a lot less likely to keep a bolt action .303 in the nightstand.

It is very different down here (U.S.) as far as gun ownership. It's not only their right to own one, I think most believe it's their duty. Of course, I am living in Kentucky.

My first KY girlfriend had a pistol in the nightsand. My current one has a shotgun under the bed. Go to a party and the conversation turns to guns? All of a sudden all my co-workers are going out to the car to bring in their pistols and compare. I'm not kidding, that happened last month.

This is why I don't think we'll ever catch up to the US in gun related deaths be they accidental or otherwise.

Actualy, hand guns can be used for hunting, target shooting etc.