[daVinci]

I've always been a fan of the solid body check. Seeing Kronwall's hit on Havlat brought back memories of Scott Stevens and Larry Robinson. It was absolutely a devastating body check. And in my opinion it was clean and didn't warrant a penalty let alone a major and game misconduct.

Ah, but I guess this is the new Bettman NHL. Trying to turn it into that no contact snorefest that is the NBA.

[stemmer]

I think the hit was ok but the argument seems to be over whether or not Havlat hat control of the puck. From what I've seen h didn't touch the puck thus an interference call was warranted...

[QBC]

I don't think that was even a penalty, let alone the game misconduct. That was a winger with his head down, that's all. That was a good clean hit. I don't want to see Havlat get hurt, but at that level, he should know to skate with his head up or you will get nailed.

[daVinci]

stemmer stemmer:

I think the hit was ok but the argument seems to be over whether or not Havlat hat control of the puck. From what I've seen h didn't touch the puck thus an interference call was warranted...

It's hard to tell but it looks to me like it hits his skate. Even so, it's not interference when the puck is right there tied up in the guy's skates. There have been a lot of cases where a player is looking down to receive a pass and gets hit but never touches the puck. The puck just has to be there, as it was in this case.

[coltsrmint2]

Man am I ever happy I am not watching as much hockey as I use too. That is complete bull shit. That is a clean hit with a guy with his head down and the worst part for me is that every guy on the ice skates over to get a piece of Kronwall. It was a clean hit and a guy shouldn't have to worry about getting punched or facewashed because he hit a guy in a contact sport. I only wish that with everyone saying how tough hockey players are, they could like most other contact sports babies. If a guy in Football is running across the middle and catches the ball and the corner back catchs him like Kronwall did, the play goes on. There is all this bullshit facewashing and the trash talking about getting him back. Man up hockey players, they should be thinking more of their teamate on the ice than trying to get at a guy and almost stepping on their guy. Complete bullshit. That crap on TV is the man reason why I don't play competitive hockey anymore. Guys in beer leagues think that after a whistle they should punch someone. Just like on TV.......BULLSHIT Havlat get your fucken head up like you have been told since you were 5 years old...Great hit Kronwall and the next Blackhawk that comes skating with the puck in his feet and his head down, skate right through him like you did Havlat....Awesome hit

[QBC]

I can understand the other Chicago players going after Kronwall. When one of your stars gets run, you have to respond or all your best players will be going off the ice on stretchers. Having said that, they should drop the gloves and fight like men. I agree that this whole face washing business in hockey today, is candy ass shite.

[coltsrmint2]

QBC QBC:

I can understand the other Chicago players going after Kronwall. When one of your stars gets run, you have to respond or all your best players will be going off the ice on stretchers. Having said that, they should drop the gloves and fight like men. I agree that this whole face washing business in hockey today, is candy ass shite.

My point wasn't that face washing was candy ass shit. My point was it was a CLEAN HIT and people expect Kronwall to fight. Fuck that. Everytime Toews scores, does he have to fight. NO because that is a hockey play. I can understand if Kronwall hit him dirty, but a clean hit, come on.
Also, I have to say, your arguement about "all your best players going off in stretchers", do you watch Olympic/World Junior or any other Playoff game ever???? Name me 5 star players that have been sent off the ice in a stretch in the last 30 yrs in the playoffs? There isn't any fighting because it isn't part of that game. Fighting is part of the "Regular season" because the NHL lets the players fight. In the playoffs, the players don't fight because they want to be on the ice. This theory of your best players getting taken off in stretchs is complete bullshit.

[QBC]

No it's not.....every team has a couple guys who are mainly there to be tough guys....if your star gets creamed, it's their job to go after the guy who hit him. It's been like that in hockey, Canadian Hockey, since the beginning. You nail our star, be prepared to pay for it. It's the deterrent that has always protected stars, especially in the NHL where the stars are the teams bank roll.

You should maybe read more of the hockey threads to see what hockey I watch.

[coltsrmint2]

Maybe I should...I probably won't though. LOL I do understand what you are saying and I do also know that you are correct. However, I don't have to agree with it and I have slowly but surely became a NFL, CFL and MLB fan because of just that. Guys that are in the NHL that don't realize there is a puck on the ice (Cooke, Toutoo) are a couple I can think of right now, shouldn't be in the league. Tough guys are there for entertainment, that is it. Did you see how out of place Larocke from Montreal looked in the first round. That is the "toughest guy in the league" and I laughed everytime he was on the ice. He looked out of place. That is why tough guys play 82 games a year and not in the playoffs. I will watch the finals and then real sports should be on TV...LMAO

[QBC]

Well, I'm sure not a fan of MLB or the NFL for that matter, LOVE the CFL.

The NHL has to quit trying to be a hybrid sport. Gonna be full contact, then so being. Clean hits like Kronwalls should not be a penalty in any way, but, like in all old time Canadian hockey, he should be ready and willing to drop the gloves if he's going to target a star for a big hit. That has always been the price you pay for hitting like that. Hockey players have, up until now anyway, been fine with that type of give and take.

As for face washing, always been a pet peeve of mine. If I was playing and some pansy tried to face wash me, he'd get more then my glove rubbing his face. A good old fashioned "Highstick-em' in da trote" would be in order...

[QBC]

Keeping in the spirit of hits.....

[QBC]

Another great hit!!!!

[Alta_redneck]

I hate to see those, but you don't go looking for the puck in your skates with your head down when your 6' from the blueline.

It would of been interesting to see what the call would have been if the game was in Detroit.

[daVinci]

Here are some more good ones:

[TattoodGirl]

Clean hit