[Brenda]

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Brenda Brenda:

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You have more chances of dying from the flu than from the shot. By far.

And here I am, still alive. Your point?

The point is that yours means nothing. Seeing someone die of a flu shot is rarer than seeing someone die from the flu. I prefer to take the less risky way which is getting the shot. A logical choice.

And everybody who doesn't is stupid? Sorry, bs.

To each his own...

[Newfy]

At least you have the choice in Canada. I don't think it's even available here in the UK. When I was growing up in Thunder Bay I don't think I can remember one winter when I didn't get the flu. It used to keep me in bed for 2 weeks.

People should not be pressured into getting a vaccine if they don't want it. There are other ways of protecting yourself and it's called 'HYGIENE', you'll probably find that alot of people get the flu and spread it through bad hygiene.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

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Yes, there are acceptable amount of almost everything. That's the toxicity level. The mercury in the shots is all out of the body without any consequences within a few days. A shot is how much ? l cc ?

Oh man this is the fun part. We know how those toxins react on our bodies. What we DON'T know is how they react when they're in combination. And guess what, different body types have differing toxicity tolerances.

And your wrong about the Mercury. Curiously enough mercury in vaccines has been linked to an epidemic of autism, with the number of children affected by autism having risen by thousands of percent in the last two decades. Mercury can also cause auto immune diseases.
And the form of Mercury used is called Thimerosal, which is a mercury disinfectant / preservative, not just plain mercury.

Lemmie ask you, if the first time your doctor came at you with a vaccine, AFTER telling you what was in it, how willing would you have been to take it?

YEahhh some guy tells me he wants to inject me with a dead virus, some phenol, ethylene glycol, formaldehyde, aluminum, and of course mercury, I'm not gonna bust my ass to sign up. I don't give a shit WHO he his.

[Proculation]

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Curiously enough mercury in vaccines has been linked to an epidemic of autism, with the number of children affected by autism having risen by thousands of percent in the last two decades.

That has been debunked: The thiomersal controversy describes claims that vaccines containing the mercury-based preservative thiomersal contribute to the development of autism and other brain development disorders.[1] The current scientific consensus is that no convincing scientific evidence supports these claims.[2][3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal_controversy

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Mercury can also cause auto immune diseases.
And the form of Mercury used is called Thimerosal, which is a mercury disinfectant / preservative, not just plain mercury.

Yes and that's why the body has no problem to eliminate it.

[Proculation]

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And everybody who doesn't is stupid? Sorry, bs.

To each his own...

Not stupid but a decision not based on logic.

[raydan]

And I believe, in most cases, that you let your body fight off infection by itself.
The less "junk" I put into my body, the better.
Makes you body and immune system stronger, lets you fight off future infections easier.

But that's just me.

[raydan]

As to those that think I'm selfish because I won't get the vaccine, you're wrong.
If I get the flu, the only people I can pass it to, are those like me that took the chance and didn't get the vaccine.

Besides, there will not be enough vaccine for everybody, so I'm actually doing you a favor.

[Proculation]

raydan raydan:

And I believe, in most cases, that you let your body fight off infection by itself.
The less "junk" I put into my body, the better.
Makes you body and immune system stronger, lets you fight off future infections easier.

But that's just me.

Vaccines are not antibiotics. Vaccines trigger the immune system so in a sense it makes it stronger artificially

[Brenda]

Why would I have something shot into me while I am never sick? The last time I had the flu was 30 years ago! All my other "illnesses" were a cold, that a flu vaccin doesnt help against!

[DerbyX]

Brenda Brenda:

Why would I have something shot into me while I am never sick? The last time I had the flu was 30 years ago! All my other "illnesses" were a cold, that a flu vaccin doesnt help against!

You got lucky.

I'm sorry Brenda but vaccinations are beyond reproach. They work. They expose the body directly to specific antigens to create an immunity no different then eating dirt (also recommended).

It certainly has worked for a great many illnesses like small pox and polio. The fact is that healthy adults can carry the flu without symptoms (or without obvious ones) as a carrier a condition that isn't likely with a vaccine.

There is a reason us health care workers are required by law to get vaccinated for things like Hep. Hell it should be required for all.

There is no real good reason to not get a vaccine.

[Brenda]

Hepatitis is not a constantly changing, yearly returning virus, is it...
I see no reason to get the vaccine, nor do I see a reason to get vaccinated against small pox.

I noticed that because kids get vaccinated against everything, there will be other diseases. My kids had virusses that didn't exist when I was young, and they just have to wait it out. IMO, there is nothing wrong with it.

That healthcare workers get vaccinated against everything is a good thing. They work with the sick and weak. I don't.
I also don't cough in my sleeve. I use hankies if I cough. IF I cough... I haven't yet.

Oh, btw... I am not lucky, I am healthy.

[DerbyX]

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Hepatitis is not a constantly changing, yearly returning virus, is it...
I see no reason to get the vaccine, nor do I see a reason to get vaccinated against small pox.

Constantly changing is irrelevant because protection is protection. The year you don't get it may be the year you die from it or pass it on to another who dies. You see no reason to get vaccinated against small pox [i]because[/b] so many others got it that the disease was greatly diminished and all but eliminated.

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I noticed that because kids get vaccinated against everything, there will be other diseases. My kids had virusses that didn't exist when I was young, and they just have to wait it out. IMO, there is nothing wrong with it.

Kids don't get vaccinated against everything. Usually they just get MMR or measles mumps rubella at least in my day. Nowadays it is more.

http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/cgi-bin/ ... chedule.pl

Brenda Brenda:

That healthcare workers get vaccinated against everything is a good thing. They work with the sick and weak. I don't.
I also don't cough in my sleeve. I use hankies if I cough. IF I cough... I haven't yet.

Oh, btw... I am not lucky, I am healthy.

That you acknowledge how easy germs are transmitted to the elderly and infirm is a good thing. You may not work with them but you contact them by visiting a hospital or simply passing elderly on the street.

Suffice to say there is no good reason not to get vaccinated and stating you have been healthy with a lack of vaccinations is equivalent to the person scoffing at ill health effects for tobacco because they smoked 2 packs a day for 30 years with no ill effects.

[Brenda]

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Usually they just get MMR or measles mumps rubella at least in my day. Nowadays it is more.

Kids get vaccinated against that all. I wasn't. I just got it.

People who need it should be vaccinated. The elderly you are talking about. Perfect. Just not me

[Brenda]

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Suffice to say there is no good reason not to get vaccinated and stating you have been healthy with a lack of vaccinations is equivalent to the person scoffing at ill health effects for tobacco because they smoked 2 packs a day for 30 years with no ill effects.

Ah no. Smoking is knowingly putting toxins into your body, and lucky you don't get sick.

I knowlingly don't put anything into my body. And stay healthy.

[DerbyX]

Brenda Brenda:

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Usually they just get MMR or measles mumps rubella at least in my day. Nowadays it is more.

Kids get vaccinated against that all. I wasn't. I just got it.

People who need it should be vaccinated. The elderly you are talking about. Perfect. Just not me

Except that vaccinating the elderly and immuno-compromised people isn't done for obvious reasons. Their immune system isn't up to the task.

That's why we vaccinate healthy people so they eliminate the germs rather then carry them and thus spread them.