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C.M. Burns
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:54 pm
Fluoride's Impact On The Brain - Focus Of Two Conferences$1: New science indicating fluoride’s dangers to the brain and other organs will be presented by prominent fluoride research scientists during back-to-back conferences of the International Society for Fluoride Research (ISFR) and the Fluoride Action Network (FAN) in Toronto August 7-11, 2008.
Fluoride, added to water supplies to prevent tooth decay, is also in virtually all non-organic foods and beverages. Fluoride's brain effects were never examined prior to water fluoridation.
Recently, because of health concerns, Health Canada recommended that fluoride levels be lowered in Canadian water supplies (0.7 mg/L) , children's toothpaste and infant formula but claims that “the weight of evidence does not support a link between fluoride and intelligence quotient deficit.”
“It is hard to believe that any "weight of evidence" analysis could possibly dismiss fluoride's neurological impacts. There have now been over 40 animal studies which show that fluoride can damage the brain, and no less than 18 studies which show that fluoride lowers IQ in children, and only 2 that don't. I look forward to reading the full report when it is made available,” says Paul Connett, PhD, FAN Executive Director. Continues on ScientificBlogging.com
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:08 pm
Aluminum fluoride is not stannous fluoride. And guess which one is most frequently dumped in your drinking water?
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C.M. Burns
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:53 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Aluminum fluoride is not stannous fluoride. And guess which one is most frequently dumped in your drinking water? The compounds most commonly used in fluoridation are sodium fluoride [NaF] hexafluorosilicic acid[ H2SiF6] or disodium fluoro-silicate [F6Na2Si] - no aluminum in any of them. Stannous fluoride, used in toothpaste, is SnF2 - no aluminum there. Related to fluoridation is the issue of aluminum in the water supply combining with fluorides to create aluminum fluoride... the same thing can happen with aluminum leaching from cookware. $1: In 2007, two reviews attempted to re-evaluate water fluoridation's purported benefits. The reviews, one published in the British Medical Journal (BMJ) and the other in the dental journal Clinical Oral Investigations, have helped to advance the fluoridation debate by elucidating some (not all) key points which critics have been raising in recent years (10a,b).
According to the BMJ review, the evidence underpinning water fluoridation is of “poor quality.” Indeed, if fluoridated water were defined as a medical treatment — which the authors suggest is a reasonable characterization — there would be insufficient evidence to justify its continuation. As noted by the authors:
“If fluoride is a medicine, evidence on its effects should be subject to the standards of proof expected of drugs, including evidence from randomized trials... There have been no randomized trials of water fluoridation.”
Highlighting the uncertainties surrounding water fluoridation, the authors point out that international tooth decay rates appear entirely unrelated to the water fluoridation status of each country. The authors state:
“Although the prevalence of caries varies between countries, levels everywhere have fallen greatly in the past three decades, and national rates of caries are now universally low. This trend has occurred regardless of the concentration of fluoride in water or the use of fluoridated salt, and it probably reflects use of fluoridated toothpastes and other factors, including perhaps aspects of nutrition.”
In addition to questioning the magnitude of fluoridation’s benefits, the authors point out that -- after 60 years -- its safety has yet to be established. The published studies purporting to prove fluoridation’s safety are, according to the review, “insufficient to rule out all but the biggest effects.” As a result, the authors suggest that:
“In the case of fluoridation, people should be aware of the limitations of evidence about its potential harms and that it would be almost impossible to detect small but important risks (especially for chronic conditions) after introducing fluoridation.”
Consistent with the BMJ review, a review in the journal Clinical Oral Investigations examined the research on fluoridation’s effectiveness between the years 2001 and 2006 and found that water fluoridation “may be unnecessary.” According to the authors:
“For the past 50 years, CWF (Community Water Fluoridation) has been considered the most cost-effective measure for the control of caries at the community level. However, it is now accepted that systemic fluoride plays a limited role in caries prevention. Several epidemiologic studies conducted in fluoridated and nonfluoridated communities clearly indicated that CWF may be unnecessary for caries prevention, particularly in the industrialized countries where the caries level has [become] low.”
Fluoride Action Network
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:14 pm
http://www.fluoride-history.de/chemicals.htmThis is just one document on this, but ALCOA, the world's largest aluminum smelter, produces their sodium fluoride from aluminum fluoride and chemical analyses in the past have found high levels of aluminum fluoride in the sodium fluoride that ALCOA puts in water all across Canada, the USA, the UK, and Europe.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:19 am
Fluoridated water is an international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids!
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C.M. Burns
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:12 am
hurley_108 hurley_108: Fluoridated water is an international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids! I thought it was an international right-wing conspiracy to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids!
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:12 pm
There will be no fighting in the war room!
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C.M. Burns
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:27 pm
romanP romanP: There will be no fighting in the war room! 
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:15 pm
They can have my precious body fluids. The gf's happy to take them then she just whines about what to do with it.... 
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can-aid-ian
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:09 pm
I still don't understand the floride in the water for oral reasons. I was led to belive that fluoride was a topical treatment, and is only effective when it soaks into the enamel of the teeth, which requires two minutes of contact. How is putting it in the water helping?
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:14 pm
can-aid-ian can-aid-ian: I still don't understand the floride in the water for oral reasons. I was led to belive that fluoride was a topical treatment, and is only effective when it soaks into the enamel of the teeth, which requires two minutes of contact. How is putting it in the water helping? My oldest daughter has weak enamel and at the age of 2 we had to put her into surgery due to cavities, not a fun thing to see your 2 year go through. 5 years later she gets to go under anaesthesia again for the same reason. The first thing our dentist told us to do was to get rid of the water cooler and to start using tap water for drinking water instead because of the fluoride. My youngest doesn't drink water from the cooler and uses tap water instead and doesn't have the same problem. Is there a connection I don't know but I firmly believe that one of the reasons for my kid's dental problem is the fact that we used bottled water from the time she was born. *I also think one of the problems are with the snack food that are being made for kids, there too many gummy / sticky treats out there being marketed to kids. It's something I'm more conscious of now and I don't buy anymore.
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:37 pm
can-aid-ian can-aid-ian: I still don't understand the floride in the water for oral reasons. I was led to belive that fluoride was a topical treatment, and is only effective when it soaks into the enamel of the teeth, which requires two minutes of contact. How is putting it in the water helping? I remember the fluoride grape-flavoured liquid when in elementary school. I thought that the fluorided water was a communist conspiracy. Maybe it was used to treat water, like chloride.
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Brenda
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:47 pm
I notice the difference quite well! In Holland, water has fluoride in it. More than water here, plus, water here tastes more like chloride than in Holland. Anyway, within a year after our emigration, we all had cavities that needed to be filled, while in Holland, the last one was 10 years ago. My kids didn't have any, now they both have 4... Canadian water SUCKS! 
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Brenda
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:49 pm
herbie herbie: They can have my precious body fluids. The gf's happy to take them then she just whines about what to do with it....  Give it back, of course! 
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