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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:27 pm
 


Whatever. Even if there is another, it'll be passed again.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:28 pm
 


Canuck938 Canuck938:
Steven Harper winning a minority government does not change the fact that his party is an extreme right wing party.


Actually, yes, it does.

You're not extreme at 36% support.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:05 pm
 


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Whatever. Even if there is another, it'll be passed again.

I agree. I scanned through my favourite Con site :D and they were complaining that few of their pro-traditional marriage candidates got in.

A vote has been held, and as some of you love to point out, 32 Libs voted against... therefore it's safe to say a free vote has already been held.

You lost that one. Get over it. 8)


Were going to have it anyway's just for shit's and giggles.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:10 pm
 


Fine. Go ahead and hold the vote. Just don't plan on ever winning an election again.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:11 pm
 


Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
Canuck938 Canuck938:
Steven Harper winning a minority government does not change the fact that his party is an extreme right wing party.


Actually, yes, it does.

You're not extreme at 36% support.


Sorry Jaime, this is Canada.

Winning an election doesn't mean you aren't radical as long as there are left-wing LOSERS left to claim that only they represent Canadians' values. And of course the fact that the really far left party tabled the motion of confidence that toppled the far left party, doesn't prove that there aren't schisms between their dogmas. Remember, they're the ones who know what everyone holds as values, and the sooner we stop this right of left-wing nonsense the sooner we can get on with the 'benign' dictatorship.

Democracy? We don't need no democracy. We don't hafta show you no steenkin' democracy.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:12 pm
 


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Yeah, well... with 124 seats... good luck with that. :lol:


I’ll be watching. Makes for great reality TV, live hypocrites. :lol:


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Fine. Go ahead and hold the vote. Just don't plan on ever winning an election again.


Three words for ya Buds: Federal Accountability Act.

The Conservatives will choose the wording, the Bloq will endorse it (or lose their last shred of credibility with Quebec voters) and 124 + 51 = unassailable majority.

Now, do you want to want to explain how you will repay $70 million to your creditors, while they fit you for that orange jumpsuit? Didn't think so.

The Liberal's next election slogan: Choose YOUR jail cell.

Gawd I loved the frightened stare Martin had plastered on his face throughout the election. You'd look the same if you knew you were about to become someone's bitch!


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:56 pm
 


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I find it a little distrubing that the Liberals and NDP were shut out in Alberta. When the province will give other party a chance after decades under Conservative rule, hell would freeze first...


If you'd ever watched what passes for opposition in this province you'd understand. During the last provincial election, the leader of the Provincial Liberals (Kevin Martin) promised to create a deficit budget to improve the quality of life in Alberta.

Now, not only have deficit budgets been outlawed in this province, and not only is debt-free status becoming as venerated as having no provincial sales tax, but the majority of Albertans like the quality of life here (especially compared to the rest of Canada) and if we all agree on one thing, it's lower taxes. The prosperity cheques are a step in the right direction, but I don't think too many Albertans would complain if we did more for seniors and the disadvantaged. We'll see.

I think it would be great if we had credible opposition in our legislature - if only to keep the Progressive Conservatives honest. Until that happens, the Klein Boys will reign supreme. Btw, the Libs came close in '91, until Ralphie stole their platform by saying he'd cut deeper than they had the guts to. 'Course that was a different time and a different Liberal leader (Laurence Decore).


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lily lily:
Didn't the Bloc support SSM in the initial vote? Why would they change their minds now?

I don't think Stephen Harper has that much of a way with words.


Yes and no. I don't think the Bloq has a unified position on SSM. At the time, Martin threatened to prolong the session until the SSM bill passed. After the vote, some of the Bloq members said they didn't care so much about SSM as they worried about delaying their vacations. Glad to see where their priorities lay!

At any rate, if Harper does try to revoke the SSM, I'm sure he'll use a possible Federal Accountability Act to gain the Liberal's support. The Bloq have painted themselves into a corner where they have to support it.

If it's really strictly worded, the Liberals could start the next election with a very large deficit and a few of their stars headed for a day in court (followed by an all-expense paid trip to the Gray Bars Hilton). Given that choice, do you think the Liberals will stand-up for SSM (and keep in mind it wasn't so long ago that they voted overwhelmingly in favour of "the traditional definition of marriage")?

Give Harper some credit. He's no idiot and he didn't walk into this role blind and defenseless.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:42 am
 


Colby Cosh summed up the end result pretty well I think:

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In sum: Canada remains in 2006 largely what it was in 2005 — a country where cigarettes are taxed 300% to 400% but heroin is free to addicts; where gay widowers have an easier time obtaining their pension entitlements than World War II veterans; and where a woman can go topless in public unless she has hate literature tattooed on her breasts.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:16 am
 


xerxes xerxes:
Fine. Go ahead and hold the vote. Just don't plan on ever winning an election again.
This free vote was announced at the begining of the campaign, people voted Conservative. Why would they be punished for holding to that?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:45 am
 


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xerxes xerxes:
Fine. Go ahead and hold the vote. Just don't plan on ever winning an election again.


Three words for ya Buds: Federal Accountability Act.

The Conservatives will choose the wording, the Bloq will endorse it (or lose their last shred of credibility with Quebec voters) and 124 + 51 = unassailable majority.

Now, do you want to want to explain how you will repay $70 million to your creditors, while they fit you for that orange jumpsuit? Didn't think so.

The Liberal's next election slogan: Choose YOUR jail cell.

Gawd I loved the frightened stare Martin had plastered on his face throughout the election. You'd look the same if you knew you were about to become someone's bitch!


The bloc will endorse it.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:52 am
 


Numure Numure:
GunPlumber GunPlumber:
xerxes xerxes:
Fine. Go ahead and hold the vote. Just don't plan on ever winning an election again.


Three words for ya Buds: Federal Accountability Act.

The Conservatives will choose the wording, the Bloq will endorse it (or lose their last shred of credibility with Quebec voters) and 124 + 51 = unassailable majority.

Now, do you want to want to explain how you will repay $70 million to your creditors, while they fit you for that orange jumpsuit? Didn't think so.

The Liberal's next election slogan: Choose YOUR jail cell.

Gawd I loved the frightened stare Martin had plastered on his face throughout the election. You'd look the same if you knew you were about to become someone's bitch!


The bloc will endorse it.


I think you find all the partys endorse it. They will of course have their own say as to what they feel is wrong with the bill etc etc, but after reading the outline for the bill on the CPC website I think they will have a hard time making it tougher. To oppose a bill that makes it harder to profit from service would be political suicide me thinks.


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