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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:49 pm
 


Have joined this site today, because I am absolutely incensed that a coalition is being proposed that involves the Bloc. They have a right to exist, I guess, but they are not a national party!!! Hello-where is the outrage?? Why aren't we all marching or something? I am totally and absolutely stunned. Why is no one in the Media actually pointing out to folks that THIS IS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND HURT FEELINGS.
How do we reach Governor General Jean? I will try to calm down..





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Time to dig up the soldering gun!


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:53 pm
 


Because its the right thing to do... :) Harper is screwed, even his own party are coming out against him.





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Seems better to me to have three different ideologies creating checks and balances for each other and working toward a better Canada for all ... then to have a minority government acting as if it had a majority but unable to operate an effective government.

And to me it is also better to acknowledge the Bloc as a legitimate party and work with them instead of further alienating the millions of Quebecers who voted for them.


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Just relax and watch what happens,pulling another election 6 weeks after one is pretty well political suicide,especially around x-mas.


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Also-why is the 'leader' of the 'green' party being given a Senate seat? Right-so she can have a place in Cabinet. Very good! And if it is not personal, but political, why is she suddenly shopping in Holt Renfrew for something "appropriate".?


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I'm certainly not angry (although i do think that legislative affiliations with the Bloc may present some future issues for the Liberals and NDP not to mention the obvious political blowback that could occur). This is entirely LEGAL (while many here wrongly assume there reservations actually carry constitutional weight) and possesses precedent and is a democratic function of parliamentary systems. That's the short end of it.

Now, whether or not this coalition works, lasts or becomes a cautionary tale remains to be seen, but you certainly can't call Canadian politics boring.





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theblocbarks theblocbarks:
Also-why is the 'leader' of the 'green' party being given a Senate seat? Right-so she can have a place in Cabinet. Very good! And if it is not personal, but political, why is she suddenly shopping in Holt Renfrew for something "appropriate".?


Well those are the rules. Did you object when Harper did the same thing to get one of his unelected pals a seat in his cabinet? Really, did you?


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No, RN person, (me too)-I disagree that it is the "right thing" to do. The right thing in my opinion is to slap Harper stupid, tell him to fire his new advisor and the Finance Minister, apologize to the Canadian people for being an idiot, and get on and govern.


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theblocbarks theblocbarks:
Also-why is the 'leader' of the 'green' party being given a Senate seat? Right-so she can have a place in Cabinet. Very good! And if it is not personal, but political, why is she suddenly shopping in Holt Renfrew for something "appropriate".?

Hello! if she is a senator, she wont be in cabinet... another brilliant tory.


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Donny, dear, yes, actually I did. I believe that the Senate has a role in our government (debate for another time), but I believe even they should be elected.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:58 pm
 


Actually Kenmore-that is the reason to appoint her as Senator. So she can be given a portfolio.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:59 pm
 


So, I may have tossed the Cabinet word around loosely, but she was interviewed today saying that she would be given a place in "cabinet" -her words.





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theblocbarks theblocbarks:
Donny, dear, yes, actually I did. I believe that the Senate has a role in our government (debate for another time), but I believe even they should be elected.


Well good for you. Like I said, those are the rules. Harper plays by them and uses them to his advantage, and like someone already said here "If harper gives the opposition a gun and says either shoot yourself or shoot me" the choice for them is simple.

Don't be mad that these groups want to run our country, be happy that they have a plan to do it together, and it won't take much to do it better, then the torys.


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Mustang1 Mustang1:
I'm certainly not angry (although i do think that legislative affiliations with the Bloc may present some future issues for the Liberals and NDP not to mention the obvious political blowback that could occur). This is entirely LEGAL (while many here wrongly assume there reservations actually carry constitutional weight) and possesses precedent and is a democratic function of parliamentary systems. That's the short end of it.

Now, whether or not this coalition works, lasts or becomes a cautionary tale remains to be seen, but you certainly can't call Canadian politics boring.



This sets the precidence that only the stromgest majority's can survive. It also pulls the Liberals away from the center and in the same camp as the NDP and Bloc, which is not a place they want to be. It's too crowded and there's far too many topics to disagree on.
This also does more to strengthen the separatists that "Viva Quebec Libra".


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