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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:27 pm
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/s ... rough.htmlIt's everywhere. The parties and Elections Canada are all to blame for the circus of the bizarre. $1: Only Canadian citizens are legally allowed to vote in Canadian federal and provincial elections, and even people whose names are on the voters list must provide identification before they vote. ____________________
"They came with a Future Shop bill,” she told CBC News. “They came in with a Canadian Tire bill. They were coming in without proper identification." Gallyot alleges that despite lacking the required ID, voters were still allowed to cast their ballots.
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“The Elections Canada and Elections Ontario people hide behind the law because they know most of us cannot afford to take them to court,” he said. One man who worked as a deputy returning officer for Elections Ontario in October’s election told CBC News that poll workers were encouraged to allow people to vote, even if they lacked the required ID. The man, who asked that his name not be used, worked at a polling station in Scarborough, serving voters who lived in a large residential building.
One after another, voters showed up without the required ID, he said. "They would have a driver's licence to show that they live in Scarborough but [the address] wasn't for that particular riding,” he said. “When we asked for a bill or a letter that shows they live in the building, they would say they moved in last Friday, for instance, and they don't have any paperwork to show, but that they would like to vote. “After a while you see 10 or 12 you start to wonder, ‘Is this a trend or what?’ We found it strange that they come to the building they don't have anything to show you that they live there.
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:44 pm
You know when people who won their ridings like Mr.Balkissoon (yeah I know he's provincial) are complaining that there is a real problem, the problem is out of hand. YOu don't hear too many politicians complaining that they may have won by questionable voting practices.
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matwilson
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:56 am
This is still the rare exception, I hope.
We better stay away from voting machines because, at least paper ballots are verifiable.
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:34 am
I was a candidates representative last election, we had one polling station where we challenged almost 200 voters with improper identification.
At my polling station, we had about 30 challenges.
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:48 am
Without proper ID people should NOT be allowed to vote. Simple. This should not even be an issue. Who the hell does not have ID?
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:55 am
matwilson matwilson: This is still the rare exception, I hope.
We better stay away from voting machines because, at least paper ballots are verifiable. No argument there. From the US experience those machines, either from breakdowns or from being rigged, are an absolute disaster. That someone can't even show up with a phone or utility bill to confirm their address doesn't do the paper balloting system any favours though. People working at the polling places should be saying no a lot more to improper ID but it could be that they're intimidated into letting it go instead of having to deal with the media that'll accuse them of racism or whatever if they follow the rules too stringently.
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Posts: 42160
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:57 am
Strutz Strutz: Without proper ID people should NOT be allowed to vote. Simple. This should not even be an issue. Who the hell does not have ID? One burqa looks the same as another to me 
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andyt
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:57 am
Strutz Strutz: Without proper ID people should NOT be allowed to vote. Simple. This should not even be an issue. Who the hell does not have ID? In BC, presription bottles are now considered proper ID, so that marignalized people can vote. Sorry, but we should have very strict voter ID laws and enforcement. Our voting system is a joke.
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:02 am
The GOP in the US are actually quite right in demanding some sort of proper photo ID to be presented at polling places to weed out the fakes, non-residents, and illegals. Too bad they undermine themselves and their cause when they try to impose a new voting/voter ID system two weeks before an election instead of two years before it, which would make the effort seem less partisan and aimed at cleaning up the system instead of just trying to suppress the turn-out for the other side.
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Posts: 15594
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:05 am
andyt andyt: Strutz Strutz: Without proper ID people should NOT be allowed to vote. Simple. This should not even be an issue. Who the hell does not have ID? In BC, presription bottles are now considered proper ID, so that marignalized people can vote. Sorry, but we should have very strict voter ID laws and enforcement. Our voting system is a joke. THAT is absolute bullshit. Prescription bottles? Receipts from retail stores? For f*cks sake. If that's what we've come to then to hell with the voting process and just have the candidates draw cards, roll dice, or do eeny-meeny-miny-moe. Seems fair enough eh? 
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:09 am
All the dogs I've ever owned have had better ID papers than some of the voters out there. As loyal canine-Canadians they should get as much consideration at the polling stations as any of the unidentifiable what-the-fuck's in the burqas or the ones with an invoice from Future Shop get.
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matwilson
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:45 am
I agree, a receipt from Future Shop is inadequate. I wouldn't settle for anything less than a receipt from Holt Renfrew.
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andyt
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Posts: 33492
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:53 am
Strutz Strutz: andyt andyt: Strutz Strutz: Without proper ID people should NOT be allowed to vote. Simple. This should not even be an issue. Who the hell does not have ID? In BC, presription bottles are now considered proper ID, so that marignalized people can vote. Sorry, but we should have very strict voter ID laws and enforcement. Our voting system is a joke. THAT is absolute bullshit. Prescription bottles? Receipts from retail stores? For f*cks sake. If that's what we've come to then to hell with the voting process and just have the candidates draw cards, roll dice, or do eeny-meeny-miny-moe. Seems fair enough eh?  Let's just outsource the whole thing to India and China and be done with it.
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